flared front foot, rolling front foot, and the chain

[thefuture37]

Recently Brian has talked about how he likes a square front foot, because it lets you snap the chain better. My question is, does the Manzella academy teach you to roll onto the outside of the front foot as you shift weight toward the target and snap the chain? The opposite would be to flare the front foot out and allow the forward weight shift to move evenly over the front foot(this action is advocated in Knudson's Natural Golf). Is the gain in power from a more effective snapping of the chain worth the loss in accuracy(if there is any) from rolling onto the outer part of the front foot earlier? Finally, Brian do you teach a significantly flared out front foot to anyone and why?

Thanks

 

[jeffgladchun]

bump.

I think I simply lack the flexibility and strength in my knees and hip rotators to play with a square foot.

 

[teacherfitter]

Front foot flare

bump.

I think I simply lack the flexibility and strength in my knees and hip rotators to play with a square foot.

Flexibility, strength and previous injury can all have a part in whether or not you can play from a square front foot. I injured my left knee in high school (complete avolusion of the anterior and posterior ligaments and serious cartilage damage) and have had to play with varying degrees of foot flare. I really believe that Tiger could have prolonged or prevented further injury had he had some flare.

 

[pecky987]

Flexibility, strength and previous injury can all have a part in whether or not you can play from a square front foot. I injured my left knee in high school (complete avolusion of the anterior and posterior ligaments and serious cartilage damage) and have had to play with varying degrees of foot flare. I really believe that Tiger could have prolonged or prevented further injury had he had some flare.

i know for a fact brian strongly disagrees

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

IMO, which may be different that brians, is that if you plan to play from a square left foot you had better be flexible because if you aren't, the front foot is going to flare out on it's own through the ball anyway and the resistance from that happening in the swing is going to go straight to the knee and the ankle.

However i'll admit that you can change the way some of your pivot reacts by changing the front foot position.

 

[thefuture37]

bump the part about accuracy of the flared front foot

 

[Burner]

avolusion .

Avulsion.

I know its picky but I needed to know what you meant.

 

[teacherfitter]

Avolusion

Avulsion.

I know its picky but I needed to know what you meant.

It means complete separation.

 

[Burner]

It means complete separation.

Thanks, but I needed to know what he meant (was alluding to) not the meaning of the word itself.

 

[teacherfitter]

What I meant

Thanks, but I needed to know what he meant (was alluding to) not the meaning of the word itself.

What I meant by describing the injury to my knee was that depending on how tight the knee might be (or other complications, arthritic spurs, miniscus tears, etc.) I have to flair my front foot in varying degrees to complete the swing without blowing out my knee.

 

[self-mastery]

I can't play with a square left foot, and I do not walk with my feet square. I pedal along like a penguin. I'm fine, as long as I keep my weight towards the inside of my feet.

 

[birdie_man]

Ya square left foot at least feels weird to me. Honestly haven't given it a good try though.

 

[HowardK]

AVULSION

AHHHH....SO I DIDNT GET A DIVORCE

I GOT AN AVULSION

 

[Mark 8]

Does it not depend if your on a hands controled pivot, or a pivot controled hands how the left foot should be?? I would have said for the hands controled pivot left foot more flared out and pivot controled hands more of a square left foot??

 

[shortgamer]

Does it not depend if your on a hands controled pivot, or a pivot controled hands how the left foot should be?? I would have said for the hands controled pivot left foot more flared out and pivot controled hands more of a square left foot??

Here we go again

 

[pecky987]

Here we go again

a collective sigh from the regular, imformed users

 

[Mark 8]

Here we go again

Elaborate my freind

 

[pecky987]

Elaborate my freind

pivot controlled hands and hand controlled pivot are golfing machine terms that mean very little in real world terms. they have been discussed at length on this forum

 

[Mark 8]

pivot controlled hands and hand controlled pivot are golfing machine terms that mean very little in real world terms. they have been discussed at length on this forum

I,ll make it then as simple as possible for our freind then Pivot controlled hands is a SWINGER and hands controlled pivot is a HITTER. The left foot for a hitter is flared out, and turned in for a swinger.

 

[shortgamer]

I think it was said best here.

Originally Posted by danny_shank View Post

Remember the power source is still the same between the two its what your monitoring is different.