Flyer Lie

[curtisj76]

Does anyone have a picture of what this looks like? If not, can you "paint a picture" of what it looks like. I really don't know and I know it's important. Thanks

 

[Jay845]

Good question. I have always wondered this as well

 

[puttmad]

Its when you can't avoid grass coming between the clubface and ball at impact....this negates (supposedly) the grooves on the club (and its worse when the grass is wet), thus reduced backspin, hence the ball travels further....

However, new clubs dont suffer so much from this problem, hence the recent rulings about clubs etc......

 

[curtisj76]

But if I'm in the rough I normally go up 1 club and the distance works out to be the same.

PS When I say "up" I mean going from a normal 8 iron to a 7 iron when in the rough.

Thanks

 

[pecky987]

But if I'm in the rough I normally go up 1 club and the distance works out to be the same.

PS When I say "up" I mean going from a normal 8 iron to a 7 iron when in the rough.

Thanks

there are 3 types of lie in the rough.

'flyer', normal or 'dead'

a flyer will usually occur if it is unavoidable that there will be some grass between the clubface and the ball, but not so much that will slow the club down a huge amount. this will produce a shot that will go further than normal that wont spin as much as normal

normal is if the ball is sat ontop of the rough, almost like a fairway lie.

a dead lie is if the grass is wet, or espcially deep and means the grass between the ball and the clubface will slow the club down alot making the ball speed severly reduced. this will result in a shot that wont go as far as normal, depending on the severity of the rough

 

[mb6606]

A good way to test this is in the greenside rough. Hit a few pitch shots in different lies (see Pecky987 post) and watch the effect of the ball after it hits the green. A flyer will shoot forward due to the lack of spin due the grass between ball and clubface grooves. A side benefit you will understand grass lies and the effect on pitching.