FLYING WEDGES

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JUST STARTING OUT, WHAT DOES THE FLYING WEDGES LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO LEARN THE GOLF STROKE, AND READ THE BOOK?
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by ppg

JUST STARTING OUT, WHAT DOES THE FLYING WEDGES LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO LEARN THE GOLF STROKE, AND READ THE BOOK?

This is where I came in. Help....please...[xx(]
 
quote:Originally posted by holenone

Originally posted by ppg

JUST STARTING OUT, WHAT DOES THE FLYING WEDGES LOOK LIKE? WHAT IS THE BEST WAY TO LEARN THE GOLF STROKE, AND READ THE BOOK?



This is where I came in. Help....please...[xx(]


I feel your pain, Holenone. I wish I could help you.

It is soooo boring here in NYC, well save a few hundred arrested protesters. Republicans are up early, stay up late and do little in between. I’m using my scotch/bourbon drinking skills (east coast republicans never drink clear liquor) to get onto some exclusive golf courses next week. LOL.

Yoda, the dowels. Send in the dowels. Where are the dowels?

ppg ... One of the best learning aids for the wedges (and right forearm) are dowel work. Check the Chuck's TGM forum. I don't have the url on this laptop and can't open another window.

Back to breakfast, still looking for those wild Bush chicks. LOL.
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

Yoda, the dowels.

Send in the dowels. Where are the dowels?


[:eek:)]

SEND IN THE DOWELS

(with apologies to Stephen Sondheim and Frank Sinatra)


Isn't it rich?

Can't find a pair!

Me here, my ball in the lake, you standing there.

Send in the dowels.

[:eek:)]

Isn't it bliss?

You look so smooth!

You just keep tearing up par...

Me? I can't move.

Where are the dowels?

Send in the dowels.

[:eek:)]

Just when I'd stopped...

Hearing the roars.

Finally knowing the laughter...

Was yours.

Making my backswing again with my usual flair.

Sure of my Stroke.

Can't get in the air.

[:eek:)]

Don't you love G.O.L.F.?

My fault I fear.

I want to Swing...

But you want to Hit!

Sorry, my dear.

But where are the dowels?

Quick! Send in the dowels!

Don't bother, they're here.

[:eek:)]

Isn't it rich?

Isn't it queer?

Losing my timing this late...

In my career.

And where are the dowels?

There ought to be dowels.

Well, maybe next year...

[:eek:)]

:D
 
Geez that was rich.
In a very good way.
Now post some dowel / flying wedges / rt forearm pics pleeeeeease.
thx
 

dene

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quote:Originally posted by glfnaz

Geez that was rich.
In a very good way.
Now post some dowel / flying wedges / rt forearm pics pleeeeeease.
thx

Amen! But for now, I would love to have this question answered. I've been working the on flying wedges drill, dowel (step 1,2) and the right forearm pickup/takeway.

Here is my question. Addressing the ball with my right hand only, normal right hand grip, when I take away the club and stop when my right forearm is parallel with the ground, what position should the clubshaft be? I presume it should be vertical, given the almost immediate bending of the right wrist during that move. Am I correct?

-Greg
 

holenone

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quote:Originally posted by dene

quote:Originally posted by glfnaz

Geez that was rich.
In a very good way.
Now post some dowel / flying wedges / rt forearm pics pleeeeeease.
thx

Amen! But for now, I would love to have this question answered. I've been working the on flying wedges drill, dowel (step 1,2) and the right forearm pickup/takeway.

Here is my question. Addressing the ball with my right hand only, normal right hand grip, when I take away the club and stop when my right forearm is parallel with the ground, what position should the clubshaft be? I presume it should be vertical, given the almost immediate bending of the right wrist during that move. Am I correct?

-Greg

It's a Right Forearm Takeaway, Greg.

Not a Right Wrist Takeaway.

The Bent Right Wrist is Frozen. It is Motionless. It does not move.

Take the Club up with your Right Forearm as you stretch out your rubber Left Arm with...

Duck everybody! Here comes a TGM term and paragraph reference for those who want to learn more!

...Extensor Action (6-B-1-D), and there will be no inclination to Cock your Bent Right Wrist.
 

dene

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Amen! But for now, I would love to have this question answered. I've been working the on flying wedges drill, dowel (step 1,2) and the right forearm pickup/takeway.

Here is my question. Addressing the ball with my right hand only, normal right hand grip, when I take away the club and stop when my right forearm is parallel with the ground, what position should the clubshaft be? I presume it should be vertical, given the almost immediate bending of the right wrist during that move. Am I correct?

-Greg
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It's a Right Forearm Takeaway, Greg.

Not a Right Wrist Takeaway.

The Bent Right Wrist is Frozen. It is Motionless. It does not move.

Take the Club up with your Right Forearm as you stretch out your rubber Left Arm with...

Duck everybody! Here comes a TGM term and paragraph reference for those who want to learn more!

...Extensor Action (6-B-1-D), and there will be no inclination to Cock your Bent Right Wrist.
[/quote]

Ok....I think I'm getting somewhere. Thanks for correction and the TGM reference. When I address the ball, my right wrist is flat (perhaps that is a problem). To acquire a flat left wrist at the top, then somewhere in the backswing I must bend my right wrist.

To address my original question, if I maintain right wrist angle from address to the top, then when my right forearm is parallel with the ground, the shaft is 45 degrees. If I bend my right wrist, then the shaft is vertical.

Perhaps my solution is that I need to change my wrist angles at address?

-Greg
 
Homer passed away before he really understood the simply, wonderful concept he had with the Flying Wedges. Had he lived longer, I would bet that the FW would have been a major expansion inside the book.
I was lucky and learn my wedges from Yoda - the book doesn't even began to explain it.
With its right bent wrist, flat cocked vertical left, right forearm take-up, pp3, pp1, extensor action, pivot, uncocking, swivel - all within the wedges - it really is a TGM for Dummies kinda thing.

I taught my son Flying Wedges, he is six, it isn't hard. But needs to be done one on one, personal with a GOOD Fog Lifted AI.
 
I hate typing in coffee shops and Trains.

Here is what I taught my son about the wedges. He already knows to keep a flat left wrist, so, I pat his left hand to reinforce the flat left. I then told him to take the right side of the triangle, his right arm - the shoulder to hand right side and put TWO bends in it. He bends his elbow and bends his right wrist - wow, kids can do anything. Now I tell him to keep the two bend into the ball, hit the ball without losing the two bends. He misses the ball, swings right over it. Another try, he knows to lower the right shoulder side to reach the ball to make contact, POW. SO when we go to the range I tell him two bends into the ball and he knows. That is the six year old version of the wedges. He hits his driver 100-125 yards. Hardly reached 70yd before this.

Brian, what do you think of this approach?
 
quote:Originally posted by 6bee1dee

I hate typing in coffee shops and Trains.

Here is what I taught my son about the wedges. He already knows to keep a flat left wrist, so, I pat his left hand to reinforce the flat left. I then told him to take the right side of the triangle, his right arm - the shoulder to hand right side and put TWO bends in it. He bends his elbow and bends his right wrist - wow, kids can do anything. Now I tell him to keep the two bend into the ball, hit the ball without losing the two bends.

Keep the bend in the elbow??
 
Dave,

6bee1dee is referring to the right elbow.

Using right forearm pickup for the takeaway results in the right elbow folding and the right wrist bending back. This is the right arm portion of the flying wedge where it is at a right angle to the left arm.

The result is the left wrist is flat, right elbow is bent and right wrist is bent back; the position you want to maintain from the top of the backswing through striking the ball.
 
Nice pick up Ed.

The right arm cannot straighten until AFTER impact for maxium power. Like a boxer, if he tags you with a straight arm, you will live to fight another round. If he tags you will a bend in his arm and it straightens through your jaw, its tweety bird and ESPN highlights.

One straight left side and two right side bends into impact.
 
Gotcha. On the first reading it came across as keeping the bend in the elbow like you keep the bend in the wrist. But the elbow will be in the process of straightening as the hands approach impact--it's not being maintained at the same angle all the way down like the wrist is.
 
quote:Originally posted by nevermind

6bee1dee do you use those swing thoughts yourself aswell?

Yes, when warming up. This was a simply way to convey my son the alignments without opening the book, LOL. I did try to simplify the movement. He is a great mimic and picks up anything athlete quickly. I think it would work as a swing thought when drilling or as a starting point with the wedges. Having Chuck and Yoda teaching was really an enlightenment. It didn’t take long to produce this mechanic into a feel. My ball striking has been scary.
 
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