For the poor souls that think FLAT left wrists...

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Brian Manzella

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...are bad.

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horton

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Flat left wrist good .... cupped right wrist good .... freewheeling Release good .... descending driver clubhead path through Impact BAD .... !!!!
 
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horton

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

Drivers hit on the way down bad?

What a joke....
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Driver swing path into Impact must be level or ascending to optimize according to Launch Monitor parameters.

LD golfers tee up the ball outside their lead leg on a 4" tee to hit big on the upswing.

As far as those pics, they do not indicate any downward driver swing path at Impact.

So where's the joke ?
 
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Brian Manzella

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Pal, we have beat this one to death on FGI long, long ago.

If you can't see the grip end of the club moving downward in all four photos, may I suggest...

LENSCRAFTERS.

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birdie_man

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It doesn't look like Ernie's clubface points to the sky like the others do...yet his wrist is seemingly just as flat...I find that hard to do (not close the face that is).

...am I seeing that picture right or no...

AND with CHIII his wrist it cupped at the top...I think the picture you posted is of him at transition...

look here: http://redgoat.smugmug.com/gallery/79712/1/3611094

Again, correct me if I'm wrong...I don't claim to know everything I just wanna point that out...
 
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horton

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

Pal, we have beat this one to death on FGI long, long ago.

If you can't see the grip end of the club moving downward in all four photos, may I suggest...

LENSCRAFTERS.

;)
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There is nothing moving in those pics. What you cannot see is the Release action that occurs just prior to the 0.4 ms of the Impact Event.

Downward driver Impact will produce too much ball backspin according to Launch Monitor readouts, and that shortens driving distance. The truth is in the numbers and the numbers don't lie.
 
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again...it's been beaten to death.....grip end is leaning forward (as in the above pics), while club head may actually moving up 2.8 degrees in some cases........shafts do bend
 
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horton

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quote:Originally posted by mikestloc

again...it's been beaten to death.....grip end is leaning forward (as in the above pics), while club head may actually moving up 2.8 degrees in some cases........shafts do bend
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The grip end may appear to be leaning forward, but dynamically it is counter-rotating back prior to Impact. What you must consider is a rotative axis that is formed between the left and right hands about 4 - 6 inches below the grip end and is behind the ball at Impact. This can produce a level or upward Angle of Attack of the teed up ball for optimal launch parameters.

Also the shoulder rotative axis will reactively move back slightly as body weight is shifted to the left side. These minute dynamic reactions should produce a driver arc path that bottoms out prior to the teed ball. It doesn't take much to produce a positive 2.8º upward attack angle .... unless you are shifting or sliding excessively into Impact to cause a negative angle of attack.

The geometry must be combined with the dynamics to fully understand what is happening at the bottom of the driver swing. Pictures freeze the geometry and that decieves the reality of the dynamics.
 
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Horton, you're kidding right? The grip is moving backwards now?

You would have sounded slightly more intelligent about this subject if you had pointed out that the hands can be ahead of the clubhead, but the swing center behind the ball.. making it possible to have a level clubhead through impact or even a slight upward blow with the hands leading the clubhead.
 
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The GD article also stated that Kuehne plays a 9.5* lofted driver which had a 7.4* clubhead loft angle at impact.

Hitting up? Go figure!

Alongside this legend they even post a 3D computer animated figure which clearly shows that the clubshaft has not yet reached a position perpendicular to the ground.

Hitting up? Go figure!
 
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