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For the less accomplished golfers here this may help (warning, I am not a teacher and the following may be all nonsense).

Practicing yesterday and getting the hang of a good release. No pop out on the downswing, replacing the left arm well, applying torque, releasing in the plane of the wrists, maintaining the angle at impact. Beautiful solid strikes and ball going dead straight - but no distance.

Took a break and watched a guy down a couple of stalls creaming it 40 yards beyond me. Not a white belt, not a hard belly, lead arm never got above parallel, good hand path and release. But his shoulders seemed to be rotating about twice as fast as mine. I remembered Brian saying somewhere in the release thread that the shoulders were a very important source of power. So I start spinning those shoulders. Didn't work. Too much axis tilt and chunk.

Then I remembered a BM comment on the lead shoulder blade being important in allowing the lead arm freedom. That got me thinking about the back shoulder blade. Took a few swings and noticed that I was tucking it on the backswing but keeping it tucked on the downswing (this maybe a remnant of the handle dragging, slide into the ball, FLW days). So I tried starting the downswing with the intent of rotating the back scapula out.

What a difference. Shoulder rotation automatically sped up and, even better, it was much easier to apply torque (did not have to think about it) and to keep the hand path in. Arms did not feel so restricted and they swung a lot more freely.

Distance up about 10%.
 
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Scientifically speaking .... Torque = Force x Torque Radius.... i.e. if you have a longer torque radius and the same force, you will generate more torque.

Tucked or hunched shoulder has a shorter torque radius than a normally pinned back shoulder... ergo less torque.

Your lead scapula will slide over your chest cage in the backswing but you must return it to it's proper posture in the final downswing rotation.

IIRC, Hogan in his 5 Lessons said you must keep your chest out and not have hunched shoulders in your downswing, and that swing thought stayed with me.

It's all so simple-science obvious....:rolleyes:
 
Interesting drew I will have to try that I do feel pretty cramped up while applying torque. Did the guy have white sunglasses on?
 
Having a hard time picturing what a tucked scapula looks/feels like.

Extend both arms straight out. Without raising the shoulders pull the shoulder blades down. This rotates the blades in and down (BTW this is an exercise from "Golf Anatomy" for getting mobility in the blades).

You can feel the opposite rotation by getting into push up position and rotating the blades forward without raising the shoulders. BTW a good stretch and strength exercise is to move the blades from this position to the "tucked" position, holding, and back again. This too from GA.
 
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Having a hard time picturing what a tucked scapula looks/feels like.

drewyallop used that term in his above posting and from the description he gave, I assumed it was the forward sliding of the shoulder into a hunched or pulled around position particularly at the top of the swing and backswing completion. When the shoulder point moves forward the shoulder span is decreased as is the torque radius. This reduces power production as noted by drewyallop.

People with 'soft' shoulders or small chests can slide the scapula around the rib cage for a hunched appearance. Common in children with still immature physiques.

Mature men with barrel chests and solid pecs cannot do this because of anatomical interference or rigidity. The scapula is essentially fixed and this may only permit a partial backswing or a bent lead elbow to get to horizontal. There are other compensations.

Hope that helps.....
 
Search shoulder protraction and retraction. Serratus Anterior muscles are very important in these motions.
 
Got it.

So the new feeling was to retract the rear scapula in the backswing, and protract it during the downswing?
 
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