.....is it now recommended that the shaft flatttens out with the hands dropping straight down (no move toward the ball) then pull the left hand in and use the right to rotate around the coupling point? What is the torso doing during all of this? I'm getting a few solid hits, but mostly mishits left, on the heel and or thin.
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Kevin Shields
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Well, whatever it is you're doing, it doesn't sound like you would want to continue!
The shaft won't necessarily flatten out by the hands dropping down
The shaft won't necessarily flatten out by the hands dropping down
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The hands SHOULD NOT DROP DOWNWARD ONLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Where did anyone get that idea.....I think I am going to vomit...
Where did anyone get that idea.....I think I am going to vomit...
They should also be going back a bit, no?
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(rephrasing the question)...as the hands start down and somewhat toward the flight line, and the left hand pulls inward and the right hand moves sort of over the top of the shaft, is the weight moving toward the front foot? Is the head held back to produce side bend? Any videos from head on to clearly show how the body moves as the shaft is being tumbled?
(rephrasing the question)...as the hands start down and somewhat toward the flight line, and the left hand pulls inward and the right hand moves sort of over the top of the shaft, is the weight moving toward the front foot? Is the head held back to produce side bend? Any videos from head on to clearly show how the body moves as the shaft is being tumbled?
Dariusz J.
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Well, my logics says if one wants the shaft to flatten hands must go forward, a.k.a. downswing plane over the backswing plane. See Hogan's backswing vs. downswing plane in 5L for further reference.
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Kevin Shields
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If the shaft flattens by going forward then it's too late IMO. The arc may narrow by going forward but if it flattens it'll be hard to catch up and get back on top.
Brian Manzella
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Once everything is going forward (not the backswing, not the transition) the hands should move toward the plane line as they move down on a different plane than the club.
Kevin Shields
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In other words, the club head should've flattened before that
Dariusz J.
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I prolly used a wrong word then causing misunderstanding. Forward through the downswing arc, not directly forward meaning targetwise.
Hands over backswing plane, while clubhead under it.
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Hands over backswing plane, while clubhead under it.
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The original question asked how the body should move from the top. Michael Jacobs just posted this video: Season Five Episode 6 'Transition Sequence' . Is this the type of body movement we are looking for as we tumble?
Joe Norwood advocated.
"The first move on the downswing is the Vardon move of dropping the hands down towards the right heel before any other movement. This is a short move, but it is important in preventing hitting over-the-top and cutting into the ball. Make this dropping move and the swing takes care of itself. In the downswing the golfer swings down and under his hips."
I know some of the old teachers are being proven to have been correct by science today. Is Norwood's first move down still considered a good move?
It seems like this is the "Pro" move everyone is looking to do. The initial flattening of the swing.
"The first move on the downswing is the Vardon move of dropping the hands down towards the right heel before any other movement. This is a short move, but it is important in preventing hitting over-the-top and cutting into the ball. Make this dropping move and the swing takes care of itself. In the downswing the golfer swings down and under his hips."
I know some of the old teachers are being proven to have been correct by science today. Is Norwood's first move down still considered a good move?
It seems like this is the "Pro" move everyone is looking to do. The initial flattening of the swing.
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