Frustrated Flipper

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Housetp

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Watched NSA and Flipper dozens of times over the last few months and my ball striking has certainly improved big time. However, still flipping it.

Question to the group: Isn't the "unhurdable hurdle" drill really the bottom line for a flipper? If you can't get to the ball with your pivot with that hurdle there then there is no way to correct the flipping problem. Have I oversimplified it? That's really the drill I've focussed most of my time on. Overall I feel like my ball striking has gotten better but I'm really hoping to play my video back one day and see myself look like the "hands ahead" icon. Really frustrating!
 
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kc8kir

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Flipper is all about holding the angles in the wrists and then moving the club / hands / arms with the pivot. There are three possible failure points:

1) Pivot stops too early and the hands are forced to manipulate the club and catch up (or left shoulder doesn't get up and out of the way)

2) Right hand angle is broken

3) Left hand angle is broken

For the first problem, you need to work on the pivot action. The left shoulder moving up and out of the way brings the low point of the swing forward and accelerates the arms ahead of the clubhead to the impact alignment.

For the second and third, one handed swings will work wonders. Set the hands either at address position or impact position and use only the pivot to move the hands, getting the feel for a flat left wrist through impact and a bent right wrist through impact. When one hand breaks down (for whatever reason) the other one quickly follows. You'll probably mishit, chunk, and block a few shots to start with, but keep at it. For me, it was the right hand that needed coaching. My left hand was great, from hours spent hitting one handed shots left handed. The right however wanted to flip it, and needed to be coached (and still must be reminded) to stay bent into impact.

I hope this helps. You can stop flipping! I see no anatomical reason for someone to be forced to flip (barring any significant physical anomalies).

Remember that the ball doesn't have to be way forward in the stance to "not flip". Learning to flip is part hand coaching, part pivot coaching, and part learning low point control. Ball forward is just the real test, though every person will have a limit (so far forward that you just cant get the arc of the swing to the ball without a HUGE lateral shift, possibly falling over).
 
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Steve Greffen

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In many cases the flip is an attempt to square the club face up at impact. Some of this training for eliminating the flip needs to be in training alternate ways to square the face like pivoting better and more "twist-away" so that you can maintain a forward shaft lean at impact without the ball going right to right.

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I had finally gotten to the point where I was inconsistent with my flipping. I was actually getting swings with a FLW at impact and then some days I'd flip a tad. Two things really helped me out:

1) The Taly. Just a great training aid device and I think it works best for the people that are almost there. I think for the big flipper it's good at getting them to reduce their flip, but for those almost there it more or less provides that little 'umph' to get you away from flipping.

2) Understanding that lag is really about pressure. I think most golfers think of hitting the ball as a speed thing or a maintaining the angles thing. I think it's more of a maintaining the pressure thing. Just where and how you maintain the pressure is up to you. But CoFF is the best video I've ever watched for the money. Fantastic and I would suggest it to just about anybody and make it mandatory for the beginner golfer to watch.




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