Golf Clubs

[Michael Jacobs]

A great student of mine, a member of our forum here convinced me to try out some Infiniti Golf Clubs

So I called up the company and got a set, their drivers have gotten the most press

Played a couple times with the clubs and they are great - I put my callaway's in club storage, -

Infinit's are very resonably priced also..... anyone else have a set or any of their drivers????

 

[2mongoose]

I wonder how you'd even begin to quantify, in dollars, the barriers to entry you'd face to become a household golf equipment manufacturer?

The R&D has to be the biggest %, followed by advertising, promotion and trade.

PS - Never heard of Infiniti!

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Infinity is one the best component companies out there right now. I never really liked many of their irons because there are certain things i like in irons and they just don't have them for me.

However my clubmaker has sold A LOT of sets and the propulsion driver is very popular. I'd put infinity up there with the likes of Alpha, SMT, and Wishon for sure.

 

[jimmydean]

jim,
any website for infinity?
thanks,
jimmy

 

[chrisfx811]

infinitigolf.com
I have their 658 irons, and ip-3 wedges.
The lofts are a bit too strong in the irons, imho.
The ip-3 wedges are awesome. Spin milled, nice, versatile sole grind, and great looking.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Hi There

Components are a Blast.... Mellow Yellow has won long Drive Contests..... Peerless Tour Model Irons have won on the PGA Tour-Steve Stricker..... Arnold Palmer said Peerless Hosel model irons were the best Playing clubs he ever Distributed.... Also Hale Irwin used a Hosel Design Iron when he was playing his Best..... They are very forgiving Irons without a Freaky Design....

http://www.banggolf.com/prodgroup.asp?cat=FWWMY
http://www.peerlessgolf.com/petoir.html

Cheers

 

[Jim Cook]

Being a retired Engineer I refuse to deal with any company who does not design their own clubs. No knock-offs for me.
Saying that, I must put a word or two in for Tom Wishon. Tom is the world's leading head and shaft designer. He leads the field and this includes all the over priced O.E.M's.
Don't take my word for it. Go to the library, Amazon or book store and get a copy of one of his books. Search for the perfect club. Search for the perfect driver.
After reading and understanding these books you will die laughing at the high school drop out at one of the big box stores when he does a so called fitting. You will understand that his entire goal is to sell you one of the clubs on the shelf and he hasn't got a clue what your needs are. You will be armed with the correct information to better zero in on your perfect club.

By the very fact you are reading this forum you have identified how to improve your swing with the perfect swing information (The Golfing Machine), and instructor, Brian. Now complete your game with good hardware and arm yourself with correct information about how to choose your clubs.

 

[chrisfx811]

Jim,
Are you saying Infiniti is a clone co. ?

 

[Michael Jacobs]

Being a retired Engineer I refuse to deal with any company who does not design their own clubs. No knock-offs for me.
Saying that, I must put a word or two in for Tom Wishon. Tom is the world's leading head and shaft designer. He leads the field and this includes all the over priced O.E.M's.
Don't take my word for it. Go to the library, Amazon or book store and get a copy of one of his books. Search for the perfect club. Search for the perfect driver.
After reading and understanding these books you will die laughing at the high school drop out at one of the big box stores when he does a so called fitting. You will understand that his entire goal is to sell you one of the clubs on the shelf and he hasn't got a clue what your needs are. You will be armed with the correct information to better zero in on your perfect club.

By the very fact you are reading this forum you have identified how to improve your swing with the perfect swing information (The Golfing Machine), and instructor, Brian. Now complete your game with good hardware and arm yourself with correct information about how to choose your clubs.

I don't think they are knock offs, they have been a company since 1987

 

[dumazz]

Infiniti is not a clone company, they are original designs. I would hold any of their products up against any OEM. They are awesome. Same for Wishon and Golfworks.

 

[Jim Cook]

Jim,
Are you saying Infiniti is a clone co. ?

No Chris. I am not saying they are clones. I do not know if they design their own components or leave it to the casting/forging house to do it.

Michael, the length of time they have been in business is not a sign that they have designed the clubs they sell.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Being a retired Engineer I refuse to deal with any company who does not design their own clubs. No knock-offs for me.
Saying that, I must put a word or two in for Tom Wishon. Tom is the world's leading head and shaft designer. He leads the field and this includes all the over priced O.E.M's.

Hi There

Why did Golfsmith Fire Wishon if He's so Good.... I always thought his Clubheads and also GolfSmiths were on the Light Side.....

Cheers

 

[golfbulldog]

Hi There

Why did Golfsmith Fire Wishon if He's so Good.... I always thought his Clubheads and also GolfSmiths were on the Light Side.....

Cheers

I think that I have read somewhere that Wishon did not like Golfsmith asking for so many new models each year when there was little technology to add to his current product .... so a new model would have to be sold on cosmetics and "newness" rather than any technology which improves upon last seasons line.... i guess he objected to golf clubs being produced as fashion rather than tools.... this year the G10 is the "new black"...the G5 is Soooooo last season ......

Have any objectively measurable physical properties truly improved ( to a degree that the golfer in their target audience can appreciate) during the Callaway X12- 18 line.... or the Ping G2-G10 line???

Maybe sole design to limit disaster if swing a bit too steep or prone to fat shots.... but i am slightly dubious about the advance in clubhead MOI / COG location etc.... maybe small changes but not enough to make a guy using G2 switch to G5 and then G10 over 4-5 years....surely!!!

Prove me wrong with numbers.... individual experience of playing better with a new clubhead design is at best anecdotal evidence...not proof.... tell Professor Sir Richard Doll that your granny lived to 97 and smoked all her life....and so smoking can't be bad for you!!!!

(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article547715.ece)

Improved Figures on physical properties and then proof that players can accurately recognise the increase.... thanks.... talking IRONS ....

 

[Michael Jacobs]

No Chris. I am not saying they are clones. I do not know if they design their own components or leave it to the casting/forging house to do it.

Michael, the length of time they have been in business is not a sign that they have designed the clubs they sell.

Obvisiously the length of time in busniess doesn't mean anything about how they sell, the purpose of this thread was to ask around if anyone has used them or uses them....... you turned this into a wishon / cynical thread for whatever reason...
the infinitis seem to be high quality in the short time i have tried them - I am very impressed by them is the point!

 

[Bronco Billy]

I think that I have read somewhere that Wishon did not like Golfsmith asking for so many new models each year when there was little technology to add to his current product .... so a new model would have to be sold on cosmetics and "newness" rather than any technology which improves upon last seasons line.... i guess he objected to golf clubs being produced as fashion rather than tools.... this year the G10 is the "new black"...the G5 is Soooooo last season ......

Have any objectively measurable physical properties truly improved ( to a degree that the golfer in their target audience can appreciate) during the Callaway X12- 18 line.... or the Ping G2-G10 line???

Maybe sole design to limit disaster if swing a bit too steep or prone to fat shots.... but i am slightly dubious about the advance in clubhead MOI / COG location etc.... maybe small changes but not enough to make a guy using G2 switch to G5 and then G10 over 4-5 years....surely!!!

Prove me wrong with numbers.... individual experience of playing better with a new clubhead design is at best anecdotal evidence...not proof.... tell Professor Sir Richard Doll that your granny lived to 97 and smoked all her life....and so smoking can't be bad for you!!!!

(http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/obituaries/article547715.ece)

Improved Figures on physical properties and then proof that players can accurately recognise the increase.... thanks.... talking IRONS ....

Hey BullDog

Are You saying Wishon Smoked and Old Man GolfSmith Fired Him cause it would Raise his Employees Group health Insurance Premiums......

http://members.aol.com/rock50728/bulldog.mid

Cheers

 

[jmessner]

Hi There

Why did Golfsmith Fire Wishon if He's so Good.... I always thought his Clubheads and also GolfSmiths were on the Light Side.....

Cheers

BB-

Umm..Wishon decided to leave Golfsmith as they were starting to become very commercial and basically competing with the customers of the component end of the business. He has certainly built a fine component/clubmaking business in a tough market since.

What does light side mean? Are you literally talking clubhead weight? Keep in mind that Tom used weight ports in the hosel both at Golfsmith and TWT so that clubmakers could easily weight the clubs to their spec. It's certainly easier to add weight than take it away.

Jay

 

[Leek]

Infinity is one the best component companies out there right now. I never really liked many of their irons because there are certain things i like in irons and they just don't have them for me.

However my clubmaker has sold A LOT of sets and the propulsion driver is very popular. I'd put infinity up there with the likes of Alpha, SMT, and Wishon for sure.

I think the biggest advantage to clubs like these is that they are almost always fit. I recently learned my irons were 2 degrees too upright for me. When I got a set of clubs that were the right lie angle, it improved all of my shots, even the driver and hybrids. That said, I'm an OEM guy. I once bought a set of Dynacraft "Tour Model" irons. They were truly terrible.

I did see some Infiniti CB irons at a clubmaker's shop. They looked pretty nice. Now if I could just find a local clubmaker that sells the shafts I like.

Jim- what type of irons do you like and what didn't you like about the Infinitis?

 

[pieman]

currently i have a couple great component drivers. one is the Infiniti Propulsion 440. rock solid and as long if not longer than anything else i have hit. the other is the new Wishon high moi head called the 919thi. somewhat triangular in shape but is ultra forgiving. Cannot go wrong with either of these two top companies.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Jim- what type of irons do you like and what didn't you like about the Infinitis?

It's more in the shape of the head, the amount offset, and the sole design. I'm pretty picky when it comes to how the toe is shaped (i like mine to be rather square) and i'm also picky when it comes to sole design. I like soles that have a blunted leading edge (to prevent digging because i play in the midwest and we usually have soft grass because it's bent grass), however i don't want the leading edge too rounded either. Also because of the way i swing i a bit more bounce but not too wide of a sole, that requires a nice beveled trailing edge design.

As a for instance, here are irons that i have played and like a lot:

Tech Power Forged CBs (component brand, very similar to the Maxfli Revolutions)
Taylormade RAC LT (original model)
Taylormade TM300 forged
Titleist 775s (slight departure from what i normally play but not a bad iron just too high launch and spin for me even with X100s)
Current set is Adams Idea Pro Forged.

The Adams Idea Pro forged are basically what i want in an iron except i wouldn't mind slightly smaller sole in the short irons. The Adams Idea Pro Forged are almost identical to the TM300 forged, however they are slightly more forgiving and feel better because there is a rubber insert in the cavity (you can't tell unless you touch it which is neat) and they have a better sole design that doesn't dig too much. But like i said, if anything, just a bit too wide of a sole in the short irons.

My list above, minus the 775s, are all very very similar in what i like in an iron. I even had my TP Forged, TM RAC LT, and TM300 forged all together and took a picture...very minor differences.

 

[Leek]

Gotcha...similar taste. Very little offset, a "little bounce," medium to narrow sole, a little forgiveness and softer feel. Of course, we're both in the midwest playing soft bent grass fairways. Sometimes the fairways at my club feel like there is peat moss under them

Maybe our preferences are dictated by where we live.