Golfaholic but terrible but eager to learn

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bamfur

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I am a beginner, completely obsessed with the game, but a very poor golfer. I have been prowling around this site for a while, but first time posting. I have purchased NSA, SD, and COAFF in that order. This is my second season of golf and as you probably assumed, I have a big banana slice.

After watching NSA, I've weakened my grip (I had a very strong grip, which I understand was a bandaid fix and prevented my release/forearm rollover/release), added the twistaway, trying to maintain the twistaway, rotating my forearms to ensure closing the face, and finishing with wedding ring up. First time to the range after watching it I hit some hooks and draws for the first time in my life and was completely enthralled! :D

After hitting some draws and getting really excited, I wanted to cement this into my swing and muscle memory properly to be able to do this all the time. Perhaps it was premature and I was over-eager, but I bought and watched SD. It backfired on me. The next session, I went back to hitting big ballooning slices or hit low grounders to third base. Hardly none straight, and no soft draw... :confused:

Following that discouraging session, I bought COAFF, thinking I'm probably flipping, overly active hands trying to close the clubface, or maybe its trying to floatload that's opening my clubface. I've been working on hitting the front of the divot, catching the drop, wallop with pivot, fiddle, to make sure my hands stay in front of the clubhead and have that slow acceleration (feels like i'm accelerating the gravity) but shanking everything... :rolleyes:

Can anyone who has had similar experience, or better yet the experts, please offer some guidance?:eek:
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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I would find a good teacher to start with; whether that is one of us or someone more local to you. I would also stick more with the NSA pattern if you had success with it. It has a lot of good info in it that will help you long term like:

proper grip (heel pad on top and not the weak/strength of it)
more clubface control
a better pivot both backswing/downswing

Work on that and get NSA to be more of your own personal "soft draw."
 
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GPM1985

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My only advice would be for you to determine exactly what's wrong with your swing. You could post a video, or see a good pro. Either way, you need to know what you're doing wrong.
 
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bamfur

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Thanks Jim. By weaker grip, I meant relatively speaking compared to my former stronger grip not tightness of grip (my left hand was turned more clockwise). After NSA I am employing the manzella neutral grip, in the fingers, behind the meat.

What would be your best guess, (I know its hard to say without seeing my swing, but i dont have a videocamera), the changes I made from watching SD that messed me up. I can’t quite figure it out because I’m trying to retrace my steps, forget what I learned from SD and just do what I did the first day after watching NSA, but it’s not working anymore. I think I must have picked up something that I can’t turn off, but don’t know what it is… Is there a clue in my ball flight? They are either big slices or line-drives to third base…

I am much more conscious of my clubface, (did the credit card drill), and i can feel now the neutral grip allows me to do more twistaway, keep my wrist slightly arched through the whole swing. Also I can now finally "feel" my clubface in my right index and thumb (lagging sweetspot feeling), but maybe I'm overdoing this and gripping too tightly with my right index and thumb??

To finish I am trying to hit the whole box, swivel finish and put it on the screen... I watched NSA several times, trying to pick up the nuances of everything brian says and his wording/emphasis. I think i'm focusing on the right things, but after having watched SD, the initial progress i made from NSA disappeared... Any thoughts on what in the SD pattern it was that i picked up that i cant turn back off?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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It's just a progression thing; stick with NSA for a while. It's a great pattern to learn from and develop especially for a newer golfer.
 
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bamfur

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Both. I started a new thread earlier today my D-Plane - A Slicer's Analysis. Clubpath relative to clubface is what determines the shot shape. However, clubface determines the majority of the ball's direction... I think Brian said 85%.
 
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Jared Willerson

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Stay with Never Slice Again.....for a while, if you start hooking it to much, use a little less twistaway to start with and then go from there.

IMO, Soft Draw, is a pattern for a more experienced golfer who fights being under plane. It is an awesome pattern though.
 
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fronesis

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Stick with NSA. It can take you a LONG way. It's easy to think that NSA is just a fix for slicers and that if you want a pretty swing you should move away from it.

But you can play scratch golf with NSA.
 
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glcoach said:
IMO, Soft Draw, is a pattern for a more experienced golfer who fights being under plane.
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Why? Soft Draw + under plane = big time hook or push or push fade

(I know from lots of experience) :(

I would think NHA would be for the "more experienced golfer who fights being under plane."
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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curtisj76 said:
Why? Soft Draw + under plane = big time hook or push or push fade

(I know from lots of experience) :(

I would think NHA would be for the "more experienced golfer who fights being under plane."
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NHA is for certain underplaners as well as Soft draw....it depends on the student and their tendency. Sometimes you can't take someone who is so used to be so under and make them swing like NHA so you have to go to SD.
 
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