Just wondering if you think that Average Joe golfer (i.e. me)would get much value out of, what appears to be, a pretty technical book like The Golfing Machine? I'd like to think that I'm a pretty bright guy but I don't want to shell out for a book that might not be of much use to me. I know that I would really like to be able to follow some of the discussion threads that contain "extensor action" and "10-k-4"'s. Any thoughts from you non instructors out there who have (or haven't) valued the instruction contained within?
Golfing Machine worth buying for Average Joe?
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bendet2,
Yes, but be patient with it. I bought it in the mid-80's and went [?] and probably didn't open it up again for 15 years or more. But with the help of these discussion forums it's become a very helpful book. Some of the information has to be read, and re-read, and then read again before it sinks in (for me anyways), but the "ahah!" moments eventually seem to happen. The book talks of "incubation", and it is a very real thing.
Yes, but be patient with it. I bought it in the mid-80's and went [?] and probably didn't open it up again for 15 years or more. But with the help of these discussion forums it's become a very helpful book. Some of the information has to be read, and re-read, and then read again before it sinks in (for me anyways), but the "ahah!" moments eventually seem to happen. The book talks of "incubation", and it is a very real thing.
birdie_man
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Ya man...get the book. Once you learn about something you were completely confused about before you'll never look back until you have it all.
I've just started reading the book about a week ago. Pretty confusing so far but i'm thinking the more i read the clearer it will get. I plan to give it one read through then start again studying it a little more in depth. Making use of TGM related forums and cross referencing to clear up any confusing areas hopefully. As confused as i am in the beginning, i'm enjoying reading it....well the anticipation of whats to come anyway.
Brian Manzella
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The book is worth about $100 for a hacker with no internet access.
I found the book very hard work at first but with a bit of work and reading posts on various forums things get clearer. You must read it as recommended on page X. If you don't the first reading will confuse you. I read the whole book every time I take a long airline trip. It is a great book but you have to put in the work and not get too frustrated with the initial progress.
One thing to keep in mind - as Homer states, he didn't include things 'more than once' if he didn't need to (other than cross references). Just because something appears only one time, do not under estimate its importance.
Simplicity buffs, see Chapter 5
I love that one...... once you understand what he is saying in chapter 5, yes -
Simplicity buffs, see Chapter 5
I love that one...... once you understand what he is saying in chapter 5, yes -
I would read these boards for a little while first then read the book. That way you can easier understand what Homer was trying to get across.
I am hitting more solid shots now than in a LONG time. If I had a better short game and concentrated more I know I could be around scratch. I have had more birdie puts in the last month within 10 ft than I have combined in the last year. It works once you get the ideas and how to get to where you want to go.
I am hitting more solid shots now than in a LONG time. If I had a better short game and concentrated more I know I could be around scratch. I have had more birdie puts in the last month within 10 ft than I have combined in the last year. It works once you get the ideas and how to get to where you want to go.
birdie_man
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O ya...it takes a while to sort out...really that's realistic though considering how much there is to know. You can't learn how to play a guitar in a day or two. Once you get the information ingrained and you can put it to use then it's smooth sailin'. You really don't need any other source of swing information. Just awesome.
Thanks for the feedback. I have a lot of garbage to undo after buying "instruction" books from some of the so-called "experts" like Flick and Leadbetter. It's too bad.....all I wanted to do was get better, and so bought books to seek "knowledge" and all you get is crap. I learned more from buying Brian's "Flipper" download than all those books combined. Maybe there is something to be learned there.......Thanks for the great video Brian and the great forum.
Brian Manzella
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Thank you very much....!
man, then what is the value of the book + internet access?...must be double or triple!...seriously, i read the forums for about a month before i got the book and while there was a LOT of good info, there were also a lot of references to the book that made some things tough to decipher (this is not meant as a dig or complaint about folks using the book's terminolgy in posts, just the way it was)...the $25 i spent on TGM was worth just being able to look up the references, not to mention what you can get out it on it's own...i think the various forums/videos can really speed up the incubation period folks have discussed above and from the testimonials i've read a trip to an AI can do the same or better...
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rchang72
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It took me a couple of tries to get used to TGM. But now, it's like gold. The best stuff is in chapter 12. The most difficult thing is that it's SO COMPLETE. You have explanations of components that you should do and components that you shouldn't do. The problem is figuring which to program into your swing. Once you get the why of the G.O.L.F. stroke, then spending a ton of time with chapter 12 and the pure hit or swing. (I suppose that you can just do chapter 12 and build in each component, but I'm the type of guy who has to understand why something works before I do it)
john patrissi
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This is the ONLY golf book to have and the only one you or anyone will ever need. Although (for me) it was imperative that I found an AI. This forum (and some others) are a tremendous help. But get this ,ALL of the hosts from any of the golfing machine forums are GREAT guys ALWAYSA willing to help. It is a great tribute to Mr.Kelley that these AI's are who they are. I thank Mr. Kelley everyday. Give the book a try.
DeadAim SF
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Don't think of it as a "book" but more of a dictionary of all the ways to use force against a golf ball. I consider myself pretty smart too, but there is almost no way to learn some of the concepts in the book without using this kind of forum or an AI. As I recently told Brian, if a picture is worth a 1000 words then one of his video clips is worth 10,000.
For me I had a few aha moments that explained why I could not improve at golf for the longest time...and then in a few months go from a 14 to a 6 index with potential to get better! All by learning the difference between hitting and swinging.
For me I had a few aha moments that explained why I could not improve at golf for the longest time...and then in a few months go from a 14 to a 6 index with potential to get better! All by learning the difference between hitting and swinging.
Brian Manzella
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BOOM!
That should have been the title of the book:
"Boom!...How to compress a golf ball and control its flight, by Homer Kelley"
Would have sold 10x's more copies.
That should have been the title of the book:
"Boom!...How to compress a golf ball and control its flight, by Homer Kelley"
Would have sold 10x's more copies.
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