Great Hogan Video

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Brian Manzella

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Steve Greffen

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Thanks for the video Brian. Although I'm not able to slow the swings down to see, I seem to see a consistent downswing hand path throughout the video. Similar to the Sergio "low back models" that have been presented recently.

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GPM1985

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"I told you before, my swing wasn't the best in the world, and I knew it wasn't....the only way I could win was just to outwork these fellas."

The only "secret" he had is made obvious in the above quote. He sounds frustrated when he says it, and why wouldn't he be?

I wish Hogan had written a book dealing specifically with his internal struggle to master the game. He had a great mind and a fantastic command of the English language (similar to Bobby Jones).
 
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I agree, a book that expanded upon his struggles with the hook, his practice regime, and his eventual successes would have been priceless.
 
drewyallop

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Check the counter fall. He is going back but he is thinking forward. I know this feeling. You can't get stuck if the forward move feels as if it is simultaneous with the back move. It isn't but that is what you have to feel. So hard to describe. Just watch Hogan.

Drew
 
birdie_man

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The Hock.

Still have no idea how he swung like that (esp. if he had some of the weird equipment specs I have heard of) but that I think is part of the big picture. It is His swing.

I can appreciate what he says about some people NOT appreciating things, "not handling tough things well", etc. Some people, who have been able to attain most of what they want/need with relative ease (maybe even partially to their credit), don't want to work at things yet seek instant gratification, can't understand how people might struggle with things they don't, think they know it all, etc.

I don't really feel sorry for these people though. They don't know what they're missing, and I presume if they thought (which takes thinking) they were missing enough they might change their ways. I do feel sorry for the people who have to put up with their bs, the dumb ideas they push, etc...

I like this about Ben Hogan. Maybe it's part of why he seemed cold to some people. He held himself to a high standard, and did not like seeing others not do the same?

Now...I do not value rudeness or arrogance or intolorance (esp. if you supposedly want to be at your best), but the only stories you get are from the storyteller. 1 POV. Maybe if I was oblivious to my own dumbness I would think someone else was rude for being aware of it. Or maybe he was quite often rude. Mysteryyyy ooooooohhhhh.....

It would be interesting to know what the people were like who earned his respect, friendship, or whatnot...
 
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carland

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In several of these YouTube videos, Hogan says his swing isn't as good as some of the other touring pros. Did he really believe that others had better swings? If he did, even when he was at his best, what didn't Hogan like about his swing? Also, who did Hogan think had a better swing than he did? He's quoted as saying that Mickey Wright had the best swing he ever saw. What did she do better than Hogan?
 
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Hogan Question

I never really noticed it before but it seems like Hogan aims a lot farther right than I thought he did for a fade ball flight. Is this all camera angles or did he hit a pull fade?
 
gmbtempe

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coachwalls said:
I never really noticed it before but it seems like Hogan aims a lot farther right than I thought he did for a fade ball flight. Is this all camera angles or did he hit a pull fade?
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Yea, kinda funny isn't it.....I mean he had a couple short irons in that video and the stance looked closed or at best square but if you follow the stance guide he should have been way open. From what I understand the stance diagram was a late edition given the original articles were spaced out and I assume written in parts, so did he forget to put them into the most detailed section about setup in the earlier chapter? Doubt it. Something funny about that whole stance chart because it does not reflect what I see in videos. Lynn B said he watched Hogan in person at Augusta and he never hit from an open stance as shown in the diagram

I see his feet and it looks more Snead than anything else.
 
lia41985

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gmbtempe said:
Lynn B said he watched Hogan in person at Augusta and he never hit from an open stance as shown in the diagram

I see his feet and it looks more Snead than anything else.
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But look how the clubface is set at address--quite open (Immelman is a modern player who does this). And the feet are left of where the face points at address, which is still "open" in relative terms. Setting the face that open makes sense with all his pronation, tumble, "3 right hands" feeling, etc.
 
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