Great John Jacobs article from Golf Digest

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lia41985

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When the Square-to-Square theory was unveiled in the late '60s, advocating that the takeaway should be initiated with a counterclockwise curling under of the left hand, I found that both co-authors -- my good friends Jim Flick and Dick Aultman -- had flattish actions begun by rolling the face open. If I'd been teaching them, I might have advised them to feel as if they were curling under. But that doesn't mean that fix should have been given to the golfing population at large.
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Did that sound like twistaway to anyone else?
"Golf is what the ball does."
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I really love that quote.
 
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jimmydean

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Just my opinion, but John Jacobs has given great information for a very long time. In his books, he always had the greatest illustrations. Just my humble opinion,but.......
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birly-shirly

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@jimmydean - agreed absolutely. I think he used Anthony Ravielli as an illustrator - which is as good a guarantee as you could ask for.

@lia - yes, that sounds like twistaway - but JJ and BM seem to have different takes on how to use it. JJ's first port of call in fixing a slice is to look at strengthening the grip. As far as I can gather, Brian likes what I think is a weakish grip combined with a conscious twist to square the clubface.

It's not for me to say that one approach is better than the other. But I think Brian's teaching has evolved with the availability of high-quality video (nevermind motion capture equipment) whereas Jacobs was mostly eye-balling swings. The great thing is that both are driven by ball-flight results.
 
Jwat

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BEING A GOOD DEMONSTRATOR is important. It helps you be authoritative. Why should people believe you if you can't do it? I was a good demonstrator.


I think this is part of why Brian is who he is. When he gives a lesson and can show you exactly what you are doing, then show you what you should be doing, it gives us a fighting chance to make the correction.

I am sure Brian hardly ever gets stumped but with me he did a couple times, but never did he just back off and tell me to hit halve shots like 99% of teachers. He keeps trying to get into my position to see how to correct it.

Anyone who really wants to improve but can't on their own, with the videos, or the forum just needs to fly and get a lesson. I promise you won't be disappointed.
 
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aaron_lohan

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He was tested against a launch monitor and could accurately give face angle and swing path just from watching the ball flight.
 
lia41985

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Watch his analysis of Player's game including the full swing:
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I worked for John and learned my craft from him, a fascinating man; I could tell MANY great stories but this isn't the place. Enough to say I was very fortunate. Just as all of you on this forum are fortunate as well. Every year John would come over and do schools and clinics with us, and we would hang on his every word. Just as all of you should do with Brian Manzella. John got it. So does Brian. I only need to to see a teacher operate once to know if they get it. What's it? Knowing it in all it's complexity and teaching it in all of it's simplicity. That's genius. Keep up the great work Brian.
 
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DCgolf said:
I worked for John and learned my craft from him, a fascinating man; I could tell MANY great stories but this isn't the place. Enough to say I was very fortunate. Just as all of you on this forum are fortunate as well. Every year John would come over and do schools and clinics with us, and we would hang on his every word. Just as all of you should do with Brian Manzella. John got it. So does Brian. I only need to to see a teacher operate once to know if they get it. What's it? Knowing it in all it's complexity and teaching it in all of it's simplicity. That's genius. Keep up the great work Brian.
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Well said, sir.
 
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my buddy at Laurel Links has made a fortune teaching this to members to undo the "roll it open", "roll it closed" method from 1970's instruction. Funny how a method invariably creates a new market to reverse the method.
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drewyallop

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Knowing it in all it's complexity and teaching it in all of it's simplicity.
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DC:

Your sentence should go straight to the archives. Original?

Might make a good Manzella organisation tag line too.

Drew
 
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