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shootin4par

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In looking into this game, I have looked into many avenues but surely not as many as some of you on here. I have talked on here about hogan and his grip and also had an interesting conversation with someone on grip a couple of days ago. One thing about hogan is tht his right hand is weaker then his left, well is hogan the only one? It seems as if Daly has a pretty strong left hand but a nuetral right hand. There are others, but I dont have good pictures, who seem that they may be doing the same. From some of the pictures I have looked at it may be possible that Annika and Ernie do this too?
Now messing around I figured this might make sense.

If I stand with my left shoulder even with a wall and swing my left hand up to the top and swign down and smack the wall with my left hand, while not thinking about it, my left hand will not smack flush ( call flush 12 oclock) but rather about 1 oclock, I am sure you get the point. Now my right hand while doing the same will smack flush with no conscious effort. So it seems that in order to make my left hand to smack flush I would have to consciously rotate that arm. So why not set up with the left hand stronger and right hand weaker, then I dont have to worry about forearm rotation. It seems that this would take away one less complication.

In TGM Is this grip 10-2-g? and if so it seems that Homer did not like this grip, why?
 
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Brian Manzella

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Becuase it too 600 YEARS to come up with this grip!

I think the so-called "Manzella-Neutral" Grip works better.

I hardly invented it.

I did IDENTIFY IT.

If you can't grip it this way, becuase you have a need to have a stronger left hand, then go ahead, do it!

But, it DOES makes sense to put your RIGHT HAND on the club in a way that DOES NOT ALLOW YOU to close the clubface any more than you want to.

So, THIS is what Hogan and Daly were doing.
 
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shootin4par

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Brian Manzella said:
I think the so-called "Manzella-Neutral" Grip works better.

I hardly invented it.

I did IDENTIFY IT.

If you can't grip it this way, becuase you have a need to have a stronger left hand, then go ahead, do it!

But, it DOES makes sense to put your RIGHT HAND on the club in a way that DOES NOT ALLOW YOU to close the clubface any more than you want to.

So, THIS is what Hogan and Daly were doing.
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My question was more based on why some players did this and why it worked for them, maybe for some the grip you advocate would work better, for some maybe not.
hogan "owned" his swing is it possible he knew a little something that most other people dont. Maybe hogan's "secret" was that he knew what he knew, and with it he had the best swing of all time.
 
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mb6606

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"It seems as if Daly has a pretty strong left hand but a nuetral right hand. "
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I have his book. The right hand and #3 PP are defintely on the aft side of the shaft and not neutral.
 
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BigBadDonkey

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I find the backswing (or should I say making a decent swing!) much more difficult by having a weaker right hand grip. Makes me want to swivel the clubface too much on the backswing.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Long hitters and....

If you need help getting the clubface turned off of the plane on the downswing, and you can't do it any other way, then by all means, grip it stronger.

But it hard to argue with Tiger, Jack, Snead, Hogan, Nelson, and Palmer.
 
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BigBadDonkey

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Nice one Brian. Funny thing is my left hand is neutral. I woudn't say my right hand grip is that strong but it's nowhere near like Tiger , Ernie. I struggle to rotate my pivot early and suffer from right elbow below left halfway back which traps me a bit I feel.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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Ricky1990 said:
Tigers left hand grip looks quite strong to me but oh well.
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It's about as weak as Brian's article if not exactly the same. If you watch Tiger's grip on closeups you can actually see a gab between this thumb and the rest of his left hand. Also at the top of his backswing he has a visually flat left wrist with a leading edge that matches his left forearm and you can't do that unless you grip it how brian describes.
 
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shootin4par

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Brian Manzella said:
If you need help getting the clubface turned off of the plane on the downswing, and you can't do it any other way, then by all means, grip it stronger.

But it hard to argue with Tiger, Jack, Snead, Hogan, Nelson, and Palmer.
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not sure I follow you brian, in a reply you made about holding hogans club while in his office, you said his right hand was weaker then his left. If you notice in my first post I said "One thing about hogan is tht his right hand is weaker then his left, well is hogan the only one" I did say daly has a strong left hand but when I reffered to hogan I did not say his left hand was strong, I simply said the right hand was weaker. I was asking to the reason of the left hand being stronger then the right one, lets not mix words
 
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Brian Manzella

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All of the above...

Those guys all had almost perfectly neutral LEFT-HAND grips.

My post was saying that you can use a STRONGER LEFT hand, IF you need it.

Obviously, some really good players do as well.
 
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