Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
So my 2nd student ever who i began teaching last year who has taken maybe 5-7 lessons from me and also 1 from Brian when he was in town last year called me up today and asked if i wanted to get together for lunch and hit some balls at a range about 2 minutes from my normal job.
Background: This student is on the Never Hook Again side of the Manzella Matrix who has a backswing that never really gets up to the turned shoulder plane and subsequently either does 1 of 2 things:
1) Comes from way inside on the downswing and swings too far to the right
2) Comes over it a little and smothers it left.
This by the way is what i constantly refer to as "too much in and not enough up." It happens a lot with better players and those who want to make their swing "flat."
So unfortunately i don't have any "before" photos. I'm still learning how to use my new camera phone and i deleted them by accident. However the photos i do have are live action shots that i took of his swing and ARE NOT POSED!
Picture 1: (click for larger image)
Explanation: When you have too much in and not enough up that yellow line i drew would be pointing OUTSIDE the ball signifying a flat backswing and an over-rolled left arm. This is the "after" photo of about 30minutes of work. All he needed was a setup adjustment and a takeaway adjustment to get the club to work more outside on the takeaway so when he lifts the club up it is on plane, or in this photo even slightly inside the plane. Pretty damn good position here.
Picture 2: (click for larger image)
Explanation: Here is a live shot that i snapped on his downswing and you can see how much shaft droop there is in this photo to prove it. The yellow line is to monitor the clubshaft plane, the red line is drawn as an extension of the plane line, and the light blue line is the turned shoulder plane to monitor where his right shoulder is going. Notice how the clubshaft is pointing directly at an extention of the plane line and the right shoulder is going perfectly downplane. He also swings on the elbow plane and if i had 1 more frame later i bet that clubshaft would be lined up with his right forearm no doubt.
The result of this shot was a very high shot that started straight and maybe drew 1-2 yards tops. My students will tell you i tend to teach a pretty straight ball flight (no matter how hard that is to believe) that only moves left or right a few yards.
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Now as i explained to him and i will to all of you, if you do not keep pivoting and turning through that shot it is very easy to make this great position turn into DISTASTER. If he slowed down his pivot too much, that clubshaft would continue going out to right field, his right shoulder would come underplane and most likely you'd hit some kind of push/push hook/push fade.
So there you have it, come get fixed on your lunch break
Background: This student is on the Never Hook Again side of the Manzella Matrix who has a backswing that never really gets up to the turned shoulder plane and subsequently either does 1 of 2 things:
1) Comes from way inside on the downswing and swings too far to the right
2) Comes over it a little and smothers it left.
This by the way is what i constantly refer to as "too much in and not enough up." It happens a lot with better players and those who want to make their swing "flat."
So unfortunately i don't have any "before" photos. I'm still learning how to use my new camera phone and i deleted them by accident. However the photos i do have are live action shots that i took of his swing and ARE NOT POSED!
Picture 1: (click for larger image)
Explanation: When you have too much in and not enough up that yellow line i drew would be pointing OUTSIDE the ball signifying a flat backswing and an over-rolled left arm. This is the "after" photo of about 30minutes of work. All he needed was a setup adjustment and a takeaway adjustment to get the club to work more outside on the takeaway so when he lifts the club up it is on plane, or in this photo even slightly inside the plane. Pretty damn good position here.
Picture 2: (click for larger image)
Explanation: Here is a live shot that i snapped on his downswing and you can see how much shaft droop there is in this photo to prove it. The yellow line is to monitor the clubshaft plane, the red line is drawn as an extension of the plane line, and the light blue line is the turned shoulder plane to monitor where his right shoulder is going. Notice how the clubshaft is pointing directly at an extention of the plane line and the right shoulder is going perfectly downplane. He also swings on the elbow plane and if i had 1 more frame later i bet that clubshaft would be lined up with his right forearm no doubt.
The result of this shot was a very high shot that started straight and maybe drew 1-2 yards tops. My students will tell you i tend to teach a pretty straight ball flight (no matter how hard that is to believe) that only moves left or right a few yards.
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Now as i explained to him and i will to all of you, if you do not keep pivoting and turning through that shot it is very easy to make this great position turn into DISTASTER. If he slowed down his pivot too much, that clubshaft would continue going out to right field, his right shoulder would come underplane and most likely you'd hit some kind of push/push hook/push fade.
So there you have it, come get fixed on your lunch break
