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Looking at tape my head shifts from address position about 6 inches forward so would this be a correct assumption; by allowing the head to shift forward six inches then it is as I am basically playing the ball six inches further back in my stance?
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by shootin4par

Looking at tape my head shifts from address position about 6 inches forward so would this be a correct assumption; by allowing the head to shift forward six inches then it is as I am basically playing the ball six inches further back in my stance?

I battle this too. What is your ball flight like? high low? draw fade? How is your left hand placed on the club?

The Machine strongly suggests the head not move. The steady head can be debated. HOWEVER, what can't be debated is 1. If you move your head excessively, your low point will move all over the place introducing more variables than necessary. 2. If your head is moving forward, you probably need to work on Axis Tilt.

I have a 10-2-D Turned Left Hand to the Plane. If I move forward and Roll throught the ball, I may as well pack up and go home.

A set of the most well educated hands cannot overcome a faulty pivot.

I'll be interested to see the responses on this question . . .

I FEEL YOUR PAIN!

R
 
HHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ball flight, do you also battle flipping?
could you expand on this sentence "If I move forward and Roll throught the ball, I may as well pack up and go home."
 

Jim Kobylinski

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shootin...part of your high ball flight is simply how fast you swing the club. More speed is more spin. Obviously, minimizing throwaway is key...but when you swing as fast as you do, you can't expect to hit it as low as someone who swings 10mph slower.
 
quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

shootin...part of your high ball flight is simply how fast you swing the club. More speed is more spin. Obviously, minimizing throwaway is key...but when you swing as fast as you do, you can't expect to hit it as low as someone who swings 10mph slower.
the ball flight I have now is not the ball flight or spin that I had when I was hitting it good, I am also slowing down into impact.
 
I hear the term "over-accelerate" alot, but not sure what is really meant by it. Do you really mean accelerate too early? I can't see how a clubhead that is accelerating at impact can be a bad thing even if it is accelerating alot.




quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

sounds like over-acceleration....not "sustaining" the lag. You "run out of it" early trying to create too much speed.
 
Overacceleration is an attempt to speed up the hands over and above that provided by the pivot in a Swinging procedure. OA also occurs when the DS arm speed is faster than the BS arm speed. So, if you want the arms to swing faster on the DS, put more oomph in the BS.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

Overacceleration is an attempt to speed up the hands over and above that provided by the pivot in a Swinging procedure. OA also occurs when the DS arm speed is faster than the BS arm speed. So, if you want the arms to swing faster on the DS, put more oomph in the BS.

Well said
 

Jayro1

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quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

Overacceleration is an attempt to speed up the hands over and above that provided by the pivot in a Swinging procedure. OA also occurs when the DS arm speed is faster than the BS arm speed. So, if you want the arms to swing faster on the DS, put more oomph in the BS.

The DS arm speed is supposed to equal the BS arm speed?
I guess the old low and slow axiom was incorrect.
 

Pro

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Per 6-D-2 surprisingly low, sustained acceleration of the lever assemblies produces excessive hand speed which irresistably throws the clubhead into its release orbit prematurely.

The heading or 6-D-0 by the way is THROW AWAY


todd
 
I have noticed that when my head starts to shift/slide, my swing has too much horizontal slide during the downswing. I usually fix it with an effort to be more rotational on both the backswing and downswing.
 
quote:Originally posted by Jayro1

quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

Overacceleration is an attempt to speed up the hands over and above that provided by the pivot in a Swinging procedure. OA also occurs when the DS arm speed is faster than the BS arm speed. So, if you want the arms to swing faster on the DS, put more oomph in the BS.

The DS arm speed is supposed to equal the BS arm speed?
I guess the old low and slow axiom was incorrect.

Yes, the arm speed in the two halves of the Swing should match up. "Low and slow" isn't necessarily wrong - remember relatively slow arm speed in the downswing DOES NOT necessarily mean a slow clubhead. ;)
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by Pro

Per 6-D-2 surprisingly low, sustained acceleration of the lever assemblies produces excessive hand speed which irresistably throws the clubhead into its release orbit prematurely.

The heading or 6-D-0 by the way is THROW AWAY


todd

Good point Todd. What remedy would you suggest here?
 

Pro

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Run,
Rhythm is always the answer. TGM rhythm that is. Educated hands of course, but you also have to have the means to transport the power package. See 10-19-0. Lag Loading. See 10-19-C Drag Loading, an instant acceleration hip action so that throw action can set up the rhythm and take over the rest of the downstroke sequence. Sustain the lag!! In this case be sure you include your pivot lag!!!


Todd
 

rundmc

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quote:Originally posted by Pro

Run,
Rhythm is always the answer. TGM rhythm that is. Educated hands of course, but you also have to have the means to transport the power package. See 10-19-0. Lag Loading. See 10-19-C Drag Loading, an instant acceleration hip action so that throw action can set up the rhythm and take over the rest of the downstroke sequence. Sustain the lag!! In this case be sure you include your pivot lag!!!


Todd

Nice post!
 
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