Help in transition - am i missing a trick?

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danny boy

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Hi guys, first time post so quick intro - since i found your site a year or so ago have been a huge fan and you guys (the members) and Brian and Co. have helped my game and my coaching hugely so many thanks.

As Brian says that when a student comes for a lesson if the right information is put across to the student in a way they can understand then they should see an immediate improvement in their ball flight - and whilst i am certainly not in Brian's league (i'm trying!) i like to think i have a pretty good success rate.Helped a guy last week and got sooo frustrated with myself at not improving him during the lesson i thought i would ask your advice.

So lesson goes like this - quick summary:

Bad posture (upright),narrow stance. tension everywhere.
Reverse pivot with lower body not supporting pivot and everything leaning left at the top.
TRANSITION - Huge spin out - hips working away from target ,ott with varying contact.

Got the backswing sorted no problem - widened stance and improved posture so he started to pull the left shoulder and hip back in backswing and looked nicely set into right side - so far so good.

Then all he would do from top was the same old transition - no run and jump to left side just a straight spin of left hip only this time contact thinner due to being more behind ball in backswing.

Tried a few drills and feelings which when done slowly produced some results but anything at speed looked like a car crash.

I know transition can be a nightmare to change but have i missed a trick or is this something that will just take time and patience on both our parts?

Any comments would be graetly appreciated.
 
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wulsy

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Danny, what were you trying to achieve with your pupil?

Although I don't think a "better" backswing really was your goal, that IS what you achieved. And it didn't help by the sounds of things.

Maybe you should have defined your goals better?
 
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danny boy

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Thanks for the reply guys

Correct sideyard - ball flight was a pull or pull slice.

Golfie - clubface going back was fine - LFW not over rotated and FLW at the top - it sure came open on the way down though.

Wulsey - you may be right. What i saw was due to being so left sided at the top of the backswing this big reverse shift in the hips in the downswing causing the swing path to go way left. Thought that if i could take away the need for that to happen by getting him more into his right side it would help - but it obviously did'nt!

I read a previous thread where Brian was saying that an open face was the cause of a lot of evils - even a reverse pivot and that it should be fixed first and that sounds like what you guys are suggesting - looked to me that the hips spinning and flying away from the target in transition was causing the open face and path issues - but hey i'm on here to learn.

By the way guys - sorry if i dont reply immediately as i'm in Malaysia and about 15 hours ahead of most of you guys!
 
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