I recently viewed never slice again and finally cured my left wrist break at the top of my backswing using the twistaway technique, however I cannot stop initiating the downswing with the right shoulder being thrown out and therefore coming OTT and casting the club. Looking at my swing on video when my hands are hip high on the downswing the clubhead is at about one o clock instead of ten o clock and in front of my right arm. Once I get to the top should the pivot then bring the arms down or is there a conscious effort to drop them from the top and swing inside/out. I feel like I'm really close to developing a good swing, but this OTT is killing me.
Help with right shoulder on downswing
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Brian Manzella
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Where is the ball starting, and where is it going?
Brian Manzella
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Ok, let's see:
You are doing the TWISTAWAY, coming "Over the top" and you are hitting it to the right?
You are doing the TWISTAWAY, coming "Over the top" and you are hitting it to the right?
I know it's hard to believe but yes it is still going right. It seems like once I get to the top I try to get a little extra power and throw my right shoulder into it. Could this force cause my left wrist to break on the downswing and make what I thought was a flat left wrist no longer flat leading to an open clubface? I noticed that on video when my hands are waist high on the downswing my clubhead points straight up instead of behind me and in line with my right forearm. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this casting? I emailed you about setting up a lesson as this is driving me nuts!
After reviewing never slice again I understand why you italicized right. I understand that if I am really performing the twistaway and come over the top then I should hook the ball. This can only lead me to believe that I am either doing the twistaway incorrectly or the force of my right shoulder leading the downswing is overpowering the twistaway and causing my left wrist to break?
Jim Kobylinski
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you are not "holding the twist" in the downswing. You can get to a real nice top of the backswing position and still find a way to un-do the twist on the downswing.
Thats why you have to "hold the twist" into the downswing. If you do, and come OTT you will hit a pull or pull hook.
Jared Willerson
Super Moderator
The right shoulder doesn't drop straight down from the top of the backswing does it? Your shoulder has to go out a little bit to accomodate the turn and then you add axis tilt to get the right shoulder down plane....right?
Jim Kobylinski
Super Moderator
Think of it this way, if the right shoulder is right on the turned shoulder plane, then it has to move right down that plane. Here's a pic for reference:
It the right shoulder simply dropped straight down, you'd be UNDER PLANE. If it simply went out it'd be OVER PLANE.
It needs to go DOWN AND OUT.
EdStraker
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This drill might help:
Get to the top of your backswing, hold a club with one end touching the right shoulder and the other end pointing at the ball. Your shoulder should move down along the shaft.
If you are under plane, the shoulder will not be touching the shaft during the downswing. If you are overplane, you end up pushing the top of the shaft to the right.
Get to the top of your backswing, hold a club with one end touching the right shoulder and the other end pointing at the ball. Your shoulder should move down along the shaft.
If you are under plane, the shoulder will not be touching the shaft during the downswing. If you are overplane, you end up pushing the top of the shaft to the right.
Brian Manzella
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One my personal favorites....
"Try to put your right shoulder in your right hip pocket on the downswing"
"Try to put your right shoulder in your right hip pocket on the downswing"
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