High flop shots

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i have been flirting with flop shots a lot lately.
I feel like the weight should be in the middle or slightly to back foot.
When you have a really open club face you really have to rotate it through or you would hit the ball with the sole of the club and not sliding under.

How do you hit your flop shots?
 
You sure don't want to rotate the face closed, keep it open well through impact, just like most sand shots. Ball position would vary according to the shot at hand, somewhere between center and left heel.
 
You sure don't want to rotate the face closed, keep it open well through impact, just like most sand shots. Ball position would vary according to the shot at hand, somewhere between center and left heel.

in the video, bm said full roll when you don't have your hands preturned.
 
I play the ball forward. Open my stance. Make sure that the I don't 'strengthen' my grip and the clubface is open. I don't swing along my feet, that's a little too upright for my tastes. Then I do some vertical hinging. I like my weight a little forward of middle, but not a ton.

Longer flops I open the clubface a little less and pick up the speed of the swing a *little*. Shorter Flops I open the face more and take a very L-O-N-G and S-L-O-W swing.



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I like this one out of the bunker more, but off a tight lie is pretty fun.

ball position 1 ball back of the front heel, with a little push down on the left foot at address.

With the clubface square to the target, roll your top hand underneath the grip so your fingernails are on top of the shaft. When you release the wrist 'kink (bowed and well past level) the club face will sit well open.

Do I have to say you need to create a little speed? The idea is to square the clubface at the ball after you have pivoted through- Over pivot with a huge flip with the bottom hand. I feel like I'm throwing the toe at the ball. Be brave or you'll skull it 50 yards. Pull it off and it will float through the air.
 
I think the gist of this is that this type of shot can be played with various techiques, but it is feel and visualization thing. Like Slicer said, let a little doubt creep in and you will thin it, or fat it. You must accelerate through the shot and not slow down.
 
I've always found pitching with twistaway in the backswing and an open face at address to be reliable no matter the state of the rest of my game and my swing. I've fiddled with everything (maybe or maybe not too much) and this works whenever I go back to it.

I'm not yet sure if a more "normal" way will take the spot this year.

I do know that sans twistaway a square faced 60 is a lot of loft for me most of the time.
 
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in the video, bm said full roll when you don't have your hands preturned.

i think the gist of that was: you have a certain amount of roll built into that (your normal) swing. without the roll (especially in a bunker) you don't have enough "uumph."

otherwise, the procedure of: a normal grip, then open the face, then add a little throwaway and vertical hinge action - should get the job done 9 times outta 10.
 
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