Hitting & Swinging for begineer
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Steve Khatib
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Kenny, the club or ball doesnt know if it is being compressed by a 24 handicapper or a 2.4 handicapper. The answer is yes it would help a lot to know anything about ones own pattern and its variations. You might not straight out tell the 24 handicapper what he or she is during a lesson if you dont think they can handle it, but as an instructor you should know for sure.
I know youre a pure swinger and Bobby, Billy and Gregg and I will Hoganize you and Lee in Jan at our school.
I know youre a pure swinger and Bobby, Billy and Gregg and I will Hoganize you and Lee in Jan at our school.
oztrainee
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I start to realise that there are more begineer student having the tendency of using the muscle rather then the CF. Personally using the muscle is more natural then manupulating the CF.
I always ask them a few questions about their swing thoughts and to decide what to focus on.
Steve, I don't think that I am a pure swinger, actually I am a bit confuse.
I always ask them a few questions about their swing thoughts and to decide what to focus on.
Steve, I don't think that I am a pure swinger, actually I am a bit confuse.
Steve Khatib
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You are probably switting at the moment thats all. Sure most new students I have will learn short strokes first and hense a hit and then we will see what deverlops from there. Lee tells me you are doing a great job over in Hong Kong keep up the learning.
Steve Khatib
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Ben Doyle would be best answer that.
But I will try : drag loading, sharp acc#2, 4 barrel power package, snap relaease, maximum trigger delay, plenty of sit and axis tilt. Actually just look at Schaeffer and McHatton's swings and you wont be far off hoganising! Get the maximum work the minimum.
But I will try : drag loading, sharp acc#2, 4 barrel power package, snap relaease, maximum trigger delay, plenty of sit and axis tilt. Actually just look at Schaeffer and McHatton's swings and you wont be far off hoganising! Get the maximum work the minimum.
Steve Khatib
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Ben aims for Hogan and settles for Snead.
Not as many golfers can grasp this pattern as Lynn's stuff but I think a lot of my students gain a lot from it even if they dont have it all 100% precise as it still upgrades their garbage and their best play can be really pure.
Not as many golfers can grasp this pattern as Lynn's stuff but I think a lot of my students gain a lot from it even if they dont have it all 100% precise as it still upgrades their garbage and their best play can be really pure.
Steve Khatib
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I suppose in the real world a 1 barrel hitting proceedure is even too much for the average quick fix lesson taker! These people expect golf pros to do everything to permenently fix their throwaway in 5 min. I will tell you that I can fix them quick but they all dont keep working at it so I give them the same lesson again the next time.
oztrainee
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Let cont. try not to quit or steer away from the actual topics...
If you are a teaching professional, would you Catagories your students into hitter and swinger¡K i.e. you will have to teach them
Different ball position for playing various ball flight.. where hitter is totally different form swinger. You will be amaze, some very good players, will have no idea how to make the ball go higher if he/she is a true hitter; as most of the information out there are only base on swinger's swing¡K..
At least you would have to give them infomation like...
Angle approach vs. Arc of approach
CF or muscle (combination of accumulators)
Setup position (Ball position vs ball flight)
Hip motion. Etc.
If you are a teaching professional, would you Catagories your students into hitter and swinger¡K i.e. you will have to teach them
Different ball position for playing various ball flight.. where hitter is totally different form swinger. You will be amaze, some very good players, will have no idea how to make the ball go higher if he/she is a true hitter; as most of the information out there are only base on swinger's swing¡K..
At least you would have to give them infomation like...
Angle approach vs. Arc of approach
CF or muscle (combination of accumulators)
Setup position (Ball position vs ball flight)
Hip motion. Etc.
billmckinneygolf
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I DO categorize each and every person's swing into either Hitting or Swinging (or the combination of both). Most of us are hybrids who employ bits of both sides.
That said, higher handicappers need the broad strokes..the sameness.
That said, higher handicappers need the broad strokes..the sameness.
oztrainee
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Thanks Bill, I am doing the same. Although Hitting and Swinging involve a fair bit of understanding and is a bit complex to explain it to beginners. But I think it might not be a bad idea to at least try. Golf is a complex game 1-C.
Instructor can only inform and explain - the student must absorb and apply.. no guarantee....
Steve Khatib
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Rundmc, Ben likes to see the elbow lead you into pitch as deep as possible near the navel. He has high ideals which is why I love him, but I would settle for the right hip as acceptable.
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Steve Khatib
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Easy Joe - Via sitting and tilting.
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