Hogan's 5 Lessons

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Archie Swivel

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Apparently I'm very inspired to post topics these last couple days. I guess its because I have been mimicking different tour players' styles in an effort to see if something clicks with me. I bought Hogan's 5 Lessons a couple of days ago and have read it twice now. Pretty good stuff.

I believe we touched on the Hogan's grip in the 'Trevino' thread. But I was wandering what you guys thought about his lessons on the connectivity of the forearms and elbows. Specifically, he teaches that at address the left elbow should point to the left hip and the right elbow should point to the right hip (rather than pointing outside the body) and that your forearms and elbows should stay real close to each other throughout the entire swing. He says that you should actually press them together.

This seems to make me swing too flat. Should it?

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Hogan didn't completely follow his own teachings as they were presented in 5 Lessons</u>. For example, in 5 Lessons</u> Hogan advocated an address position with the elbows close together pointing at their respective hip bones. He said the front of the elbow should point to the sky. The image he had was a rope binding the arms together. However, if you look at Hogan's address position, (check the videos on Lynn Blake's site), his arms appear relaxed, not bound together and the fronts are not pointing skyward.
 
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I don't think his arms\rope thing will helpmake golfers any better, put it that way. I think it's a bad idea.. it could inhibit elbow (right elbow) movement on the way back if done to extreme, dare I say it lead to low rightflat takeaway.
 
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quote:Originally posted by Archie Swivel

Apparently I'm very inspired to post topics these last couple days. I guess its because I have been mimicking different tour players' styles in an effort to see if something clicks with me. I bought Hogan's 5 Lessons a couple of days ago and have read it twice now. Pretty good stuff.

I believe we touched on the Hogan's grip in the 'Trevino' thread. But I was wandering what you guys thought about his lessons on the connectivity of the forearms and elbows. Specifically, he teaches that at address the left elbow should point to the left hip and the right elbow should point to the right hip (rather than pointing outside the body) and that your forearms and elbows should stay real close to each other throughout the entire swing. He says that you should actually press them together.

This seems to make me swing too flat. Should it?

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Following Hogan's advice will flatten your arm swing but that won't be a problem if you bend over more at the waist. Interestingly, Hogan increases the bend in his waist throughout the backswing and downswing until impact: in the Jim McLean video about Hogan, Mclean superimposes Hogan's impact and address positions and his head is quite a bit lower at impact.

The rope binding the arms image has provoked a lot of controversy. There is no doubt that Hogan did not squeeze his arms together at address as in the illustration, although Gary Player, a Hogan idolizer, clearly did. However, some maintain that Hogan meant this image to be used as a swing thought, not an address position. The great Mickey Wright, who lived in Dallas and was a member at Hogan's club, Shady Oaks, also emphasizes this swing thought: her book, "Play Golf the Wright Way", shows her wearing an elastic training device designed to keep the arms close together throughout the swing. BTW, Hogan said Mickey had "the finest swing I [Hogan] ever saw".

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quote:Originally posted by jeffy
Following Hogan's advice will flatten your arm swing but that won't be a problem if you bend over more at the waist. Interestingly, Hogan increases the bend in his waist throughout the backswing and downswing until impact: in the Jim McLean video about Hogan, Mclean superimposes Hogan's impact and address positions and his head is quite a bit lower at impact.
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Hmmmm interesting. I haven't noticed this before.

Thanks for pointing that out Jeffy.

I don't think I'll be emulating it :) ....but I may try to alter my posture a bit.

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It would have been a cool little experiment to see how Hogan hit it if he started from that posture at address.
 
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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

quote:Originally posted by jeffy
Following Hogan's advice will flatten your arm swing but that won't be a problem if you bend over more at the waist. Interestingly, Hogan increases the bend in his waist throughout the backswing and downswing until impact: in the Jim McLean video about Hogan, Mclean superimposes Hogan's impact and address positions and his head is quite a bit lower at impact.
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Hmmmm interesting. I haven't noticed this before.

Thanks for pointing that out Jeffy.

I don't think I'll be emulating it :) ....but I may try to alter my posture a bit.
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If you have the "Hogan: In Pursuit of Perfection" DVD, check out the down-the-line driver sequence: at address, there is a caddie standing in the distance directly behind Hogan's head, though at address you can't see any of him. By the time Hogan reaches the top of his backswing, the caddie is fully visible...Don't try this at home!

Jeff
 
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