Homer's "The Mystifying Action" - US Open Comments

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Michael Jacobs

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With all the wonderful info that golfers have access to............. the one that is so being so overlooked is the swinging motion and the "mystifying action" that comes along with a swinging motion. A golf student could hop on the net and read and see all they want about - right forearm tracing, fanning, plane line tracing, takeaway, magic of the right forearm, visual equivelants, alternate target lines, etc... etc.. and by all means they are all great and I use them each and everyday on the lesson tee and there is a time and place for students who need this info to improve....

What it boils down to though

hitting = driving the club towards the ball - releasing the accumulators (the power package, your triangle" with accumulators themselves -- this is where the above stuff is very useful

Swinging == basically in your mind --- flat out - whiffing the ball --- releasing the accumulators with the pivot -- this is what homer called the mystifying action -- how using your pivot to release the accumulators sends that clubhead into the ball - into the turf but in the swingers mind - it was a "gift"

True free wheeling!! Larry Mize, Ben Crenshaw, Al Geiberger, PATTY SHEEHAN (how great of a swinger was she? how about the best ever) Sitting there watching the US Open -- thinking kids out there today do not have swings like that to watch anymore..... they only see 365 yd drives and a putting contest -- and thats what is --- a putting contest

Arron Baddeley drops them all on sat and then misses them all on sunday, i play a few tournaments here and there when I can -- its difficult to prepare for tournament greens --- not putting well this year --- putted well last year -- this years tournament stroke average is 3.5 shots higher

Forum members - learn to free wheel that clubhead (make the club work like a club) and putt the eyes out of it and you will shoot what you want to

Brian we need more putting videos, techniques, stroke patterns - analysis
and the web needs a manzella analysis of Patty Sheehan (flat out the best ever)
 

Steve Khatib

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Great point Michael, there was great swing footage at Oakmont but all of the focus was placed on the trivial not the 'meat' eg physics force motion that these guys were producing!
 
Good Post!

Patty is awesome. She lives in Reno now and hardly touches a club. Her brother lives here too and can really golf his ball. Great genes in that clan.
 
So a hitter would not use the pivot to send the club into the ball while a swinger would? Is that correct? Does a hitters arms control their pivot then?
 
xplosivegolf said:
Sitting there watching the US Open -- thinking kids out there today do not have swings like that to watch anymore..... they only see 365 yd drives and a putting contest -- and thats what is --- a putting contest

I understand the whole bomb n gouge thing.........and how you don't have to work the ball as much anymore..............

But what I don't think I fully understand is why it would be anymore of a putting contest than before....?

I get that the greens are wicked fast and crazy and there is a lot of getting up and down.......(cause it's hard to hold greens apparently from 20 yards off sometimes...and also hard when you're hacking it around out of the rough)....

Is it that different than before? I'm only 22 so I wouldn't know. I guess the greens would be faster anyhow.....

Maybe you or someone can shed some light.
 
I think most of the greatest players in the steel shaft era had some right arm participation that is more than just extensor action.
 
BUt "right arm participation" means active straightening of the right elbow not the right wrist... correct???

Do you think that active accumulator 1 requires the right foot to be more solidly planted at impact ... like in your other thread Jim about great post impact image/position??
 

Michael Jacobs

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I understand the whole bomb n gouge thing.........and how you don't have to work the ball as much anymore..............

But what I don't think I fully understand is why it would be anymore of a putting contest than before....?

I get that the greens are wicked fast and crazy and there is a lot of getting up and down.......(cause it's hard to hold greens apparently from 20 yards off sometimes...and also hard when you're hacking it around out of the rough)....

Is it that different than before? I'm only 22 so I wouldn't know. I guess the greens would be faster anyhow.....

Maybe you or someone can shed some light.




If you are playing a 4 round golf tournament -- and make 2 extra putts per round (a 10 footer or a 20 footer here or there) ------ just 2 ---- that is a total of 8 shots for the championship
This US Open that would be the difference between the winner at +5 and a golfer who finished at +13

Selected pin placements and the actual hole cutter itself -- (sharp Edges) it is very very challenging
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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You can have plenty of distcance whether or not the right arm straightens actively or passively --- it is very very difficult to visually see if it is active or passive

Free Wheeling = club head

Very true, but when i give it some right arm combined with a strong pivot i can eek out another 10 yards, that's a lot on a tour prepped fairway.
 
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