Hosel fades back
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matt kluck
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Remember
the birdies and then understand the cause.
the birdies and then understand the cause.
Oh I know the cause. Just fixing it is different. Never shanked till I went to the Wedding ring up.
Brian Manzella
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There is always a reason.
"I never shanked until I went to the wedding ring up."
Got ya.
Full roll, without left wrist bend, is something everyone should learn how to do—at some point.
But, maybe you should forget you learned it.
Anyhoo, on to the fix...
You shank because you are trying to do something that makes your little hosel get in the way of your sweetspot—feel wise.
"I know that."
I got ya.
So...
the question is
What is it that you are consciously trying to do?
"I never shanked until I went to the wedding ring up."
Got ya.
Full roll, without left wrist bend, is something everyone should learn how to do—at some point.
But, maybe you should forget you learned it.
Anyhoo, on to the fix...
You shank because you are trying to do something that makes your little hosel get in the way of your sweetspot—feel wise.
"I know that."
I got ya.
So...
the question is
What is it that you are consciously trying to do?
matt kluck
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Good Point
Good question Brian. What wanole is trying to do may be the cause.
Good question Brian. What wanole is trying to do may be the cause.
I just can't think of any swing thought I have anymore. Just kinda swing. I do sometimes try and get my right shoulder working down and through when my practice swing seems like I'd hit it thin. Thinking about it that is when my first shank happened in my last round. Don't recall consciously trying to do it on any other shot.
Brian Manzella
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The Easiest Way
The easiest way for a better player such as yourself, to shank the ball, is for that player to make TOO LARGE of a change in shoulder planes early in the downswing.
You have two choices to rectify this situation:
"B" is most often the solution that will work, but it a little tricky to learn.
Wanole,
Are you hitting a draw or fade? And are you aiming slight;y eft or right?
The easiest way for a better player such as yourself, to shank the ball, is for that player to make TOO LARGE of a change in shoulder planes early in the downswing.
You have two choices to rectify this situation:
a. Flatter shoulder turn on the backswing
b. more rotated shoulder turn at start down
b. more rotated shoulder turn at start down
"B" is most often the solution that will work, but it a little tricky to learn.
Wanole,
Are you hitting a draw or fade? And are you aiming slight;y eft or right?
My short irons are mostly straight with a pull. Long irons are usually pretty straight. If anything the ball falls left on the way down. I'd love to have a slight fade with all my shots, but mostly they are straight. I am pretty much square to the target line which is suppose to be straight at the flag. After seeing your pinned post I might change that. I play front ball position on all shots.
Can you explain B to me? I've always had a steeper swing so going flat would be very drastic at this point.
Brian Manzella
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A. Lower Right Shoulder at the top...with the SAME arm/hand/club position (which would be higher relative to your shoulders)
B. Same backswing. On the downswing, keep your left shoulder lower longer into the downswing.
birdie_man
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Interesting.
I don't think I have ever heard a teach ask the student this. If I have it has been very very few and nearly forgettable in frequency and importance and how well it was carried out. I haven't been around golf lessons as much as some- but still.
Intent is a funny thing yes? Right down to the last detail at that.
birdie_man
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BTW very interesting thread!!!
(neat exchange)
And FWIW...
Full roll with steeper shoulder turns has not jived so well with me.
(neat exchange)
And FWIW...
Full roll with steeper shoulder turns has not jived so well with me.
Dariusz J.
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Brian, is it common for golfers with a too in-to-out pattern who want to learn to FADE the ball to struggle with hosel shots somewhen in the process ? And if yes - why ?
Cheers
Cheers
birdie_man
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It happened to me...! Delayed my NHA progress bigtime!
That is to say- everytime I tried to flatten out (or even bend) my left wrist at the top (it was arched always) I would hit shanks.
That is to say- everytime I tried to flatten out (or even bend) my left wrist at the top (it was arched always) I would hit shanks.
Kevin Shields
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Its crucial to know sometimes what the hell the person is even trying to do. It could explain alot.
2mongoose
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Wait, so you had 5 doubles and 1 triple........then sprinkled in 4 birdies and 8 pars along the way?
Wait, so you had 5 doubles and 1 triple........then sprinkled in 4 birdies and 8 pars along the way?
Yes. I played real well except for the shanks. I saved one par from a shank by draining a 40 footer. I hit 3 shanks in the water and one OB. I hit every fairway and every green when I didn't shank. Not bad for having not picked up a club since early sept. For some reason I play better the less I play.
Kevin Shields
Super Moderator
Wait, so you had 5 doubles and 1 triple........then sprinkled in 4 birdies and 8 pars along the way?
Just keep that handicap where its at and we're going on the road
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