How does a hitter finish
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A Hitter will finish with higher hands in front of the left shoulder. The relentless driving of the right arm and the feeling of NO ROLL, not a feeling of a reverse roll trying to keep it open, but I hate the speak of ‘feel,’ with the completion of the pivot and a later swivel action of the left hand will send the arms up and slightly around to the left. Phew.
Most Hitters will hit a fade to the right, of course. You do not need to feel the temptation to hold or maintain the angled hinge’s clubface, the driving right arm will do that and the pivot, the turning torso will continue the golf stroke to the inside.
Take the full roll out of the hands, drive the right arm and let the pivot finish it up.
rwh
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I assume you use the Hitter's 10-5-E set up -- stance and plane line "closed" to the target line, clubface looking down the target line -- which means you are actually making an inside-out stroke. Like any other stroke, you should finish "on-plane", understanding that your plane goes inside-out toward right field in relation to the target line. Using horizontal hinging may be an attempt to steer the ball along the target line.
Jim Kobylinski
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Sounds like you're quitting a little....make you DRIVE THAT RIGHT ARM all the way to follow through. Actually try and physically punch the ground with the base of your right palm
I may be attempting to "steer" or "quit". Not sure which. I don't have the problem with the shorter clubs. I can hit with my shorter clubs, but with the longer clubs, my hands and arms just want to roll, I actually have to physically hang on to keep from turning the club over. As a compensation I will sometimes set up right and hit with a horizontal hinge creating a strong draw. I'll definitely take the tips you guys have thrown out and try it on the rane tonight. Lately I've been hitting with the short irons and swinging with the long irons and woods. Pretty good success so far, just can't hit the damn three wood off the deck.
Jim Kobylinski
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I swing the long clubs and hit the short clubs. Its a good combo...
Also, make sure you ball position isn't too far foward when hitting 3 wood off the deck. Also adjust your aiming point so that your hands lead the clubhead into the ball. Remember, you still hit DOWN with your fairway woods
Also, make sure you ball position isn't too far foward when hitting 3 wood off the deck. Also adjust your aiming point so that your hands lead the clubhead into the ball. Remember, you still hit DOWN with your fairway woods
Jim Kobylinski
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Yup...you can do that too. Some pros NEVER hit.
However done properly a 4 barrel hitting motion is pretty powerful
rwh
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Because that is what Mr. Kelley wrote in the book. Hitters use a cross-line, "out to right field" Delivery Line (called the "Angle of Approach) and this requires a substitution of 10-5-E for the original 10-5-A in the follow-through. See 2-J-3-B and 6-H-0-E(10).
Simply put, you can't swing cross-line unless your plane line points to the right of your target line.
Hmm so Homer says that the Angle of Approach is most compatible with Hitting (2-J-3), that it is imperative to educate the hands of the angle of Approach for Hitting (6-H-0-E(10)) and therefore, as you say, the plane line becomes 10-5-E.
But despite all that, 12-1 includes the 10-5-A plane line. I take it that means the Visual Arc of Approach is the delivery line prescribed in 12-1. I'm only just becoming familiar with this stuff, but it sounds like 10-5-E and the Angle of Approach is indeed a customisation.
But despite all that, 12-1 includes the 10-5-A plane line. I take it that means the Visual Arc of Approach is the delivery line prescribed in 12-1. I'm only just becoming familiar with this stuff, but it sounds like 10-5-E and the Angle of Approach is indeed a customisation.
For What It Is Worth:
This is what Lynn wrote on the subject June 20th 2004,
"If is perfectly acceptable for both Hitters and Swingers to use the same Straight Plane Line of 10-5-A, and I suggest you continue to use it until you become proficient. That would also be Homer’s suggestion. In fact, that is why 10-5-A is the recommended Plane Line in the non-customized Hitter’s Stroke Pattern (12-1-0). Only after you have learned to Drive the Clubhead through Impact on the conventional Plane Line would I recommend you venture forth into Angle of Approach procedure."
This is what Lynn wrote on the subject June 20th 2004,
"If is perfectly acceptable for both Hitters and Swingers to use the same Straight Plane Line of 10-5-A, and I suggest you continue to use it until you become proficient. That would also be Homer’s suggestion. In fact, that is why 10-5-A is the recommended Plane Line in the non-customized Hitter’s Stroke Pattern (12-1-0). Only after you have learned to Drive the Clubhead through Impact on the conventional Plane Line would I recommend you venture forth into Angle of Approach procedure."
In Ted stroke on Lynn site, he is using an open stance. So how can you have a right plane line with an open stance. Your right hip must bump extensively to the right in order to have a right plane line? Or do you just use a straight plane line, with an open stance, so over the top move?
All Hip motion moves parallel to the selected Delivery Line not the target line or stance line.
With an open stance, used with shorter scoring irons, your delivery line may be closer to your stance line than with longer clubs and a closed or square stance. The longer sticks with an inside - out swing would bump the hips along that line.
With an open stance, used with shorter scoring irons, your delivery line may be closer to your stance line than with longer clubs and a closed or square stance. The longer sticks with an inside - out swing would bump the hips along that line.
rwh
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This is Lynn's post from April 15, 2005 on his forum:
"Both Hitters and Swingers should align the Body 'comparatively squared away' (slightly turned) to their selected Delivery Line (10-8-A). Hitters using the Angle of Approach procedure should align their Hips and Shoulders slightly open</u> to the Angle of Approach. Similarly, Swingers should align the Body slightly open to the Geometric Plane Line (2-J-3)." [emphasis added]
And this post of Lynn's from his forum on March 27, 2005:
"However, in his taped Master Classes, Homer Kelley always referred to the Angle of Approach as a Visual Equivalent; specifically, of the Straight Line Baseline of the Inclined Plane that always serves as the Geometric Basis of the Stroke. It is through the Impact Point and Low Point established on this Inclined Plane that the straight-line Angle of Approach passes.
This Line may be visualized by the player as being on the ground. Hence, its classification as a Visual Equivalent. The Angle of Approach procedure results in a steeper Inclined Plane whose Line is Closed (to the Target) per 10-5-E. But, you don't Trace ('point at') this Line with the Clubhead -- you cover it. You do, however, Trace it with the Right Forearm." [emphasis added].
Brian Manzella
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Again....a liitle easier version:
If you are trying for CROSS-LINE hips and thrust....
CROSS-LINE everything.
If you are trying for CROSS-LINE hips and thrust....
CROSS-LINE everything.
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