How Important is Fanning?

[Arizonian]

I recently checked out a video where Yoda mentioned and demonstrated the fanning of the clubface on takeaway. I know this is pretty normal in the golfing world, but is it necessary? I've had much better luck talking the club straight up, more or less keeping the clubface on plane. I may lose a little of Accumalator #3, as it is not as powerful of a roll as when I do fan the club, but I still use horizontal hinging and distance is not my problem.

So the question is how important or necessary is fanning? Or is it necessary at all?

 

[dclaryjr]

quote:Originally posted by Arizonian

I recently checked out a video where Yoda mentioned and demonstrated the fanning of the clubface on takeaway. I know this is pretty normal in the golfing world, but is it necessary? I've had much better luck talking the club straight up, more or less keeping the clubface on plane. I may lose a little of Accumalator #3, as it is not as powerful of a roll as when I do fan the club, but I still use horizontal hinging and distance is not my problem.

So the question is how important or necessary is fanning? Or is it necessary at all?

Assuming the video is the MMOC CD, it may make a difference that Martee is a swinger. I believe part of the swinging procedure is an immediate swivel of the left arm on the backswing which would go hand-in-hand with the fanning of the right forearm. Keeping the face looking at the plane line is what happens if you use Brian's "twist away", and Brian has identified that as a hitting procedure. So I guess that makes my answer--it depends!

 

[MizunoJoe]

Couples doesn't "fan" or in TGM terms, Turn, his left wrist, but rather lifts his arms up high, and then makes a huge shoulder turn. He also doesn't Roll through impact, bending his left wrist past separation at the both arms straight position.

So, no, it's not necessary. But most Swingers do it.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

Couples doesn't "fan" or in TGM terms, Turn, his left wrist, but rather lifts his arms up high, and then makes a huge shoulder turn. He also doesn't Roll through impact, bending his left wrist past separation at the both arms straight position.

So, no, it's not necessary. But most Swingers do it.

I thought fanning was more a right arm action away from the ball, like a clapping motion.

 

[Arizonian]

Thanks 'dclaryjr', you summed up about everything I was hoping to hear. I spent an afternoon at the range the other day trying this right forearm fanning motion, and as I mentioned in the original post I could really feel the power of accumaltor #3, but hit the ball like **** (fat, thin, hook, push, you name it).
I think the problem I was having (I'm a Hitter) was getting the feel of having the right forearm on plane, and driving right from the start down. The right forearm seemed out of position for nearly most of the downswing. The fanning motion does not seem to be hitter friendly.
Of course I know if YODA says, right forearm fanning is correct and doable in the hitting procedure, then it's well.... correct.
Now apparently what I've been doing is Brian's twistaway action or close to it. I got the idea from 10-18-D (which is labeled wrong, it's the 'single') is right from 'start up' is to fully arch the left wrist, and to fully bend the right wrist (setting the wedges). Now keeping the clubface on plane (no fanning) I simply am taking the club up with little pivot and driving to low point with accumalator #1.
I am interested to know more about Brian's 'twistaway', this may be the gem I'm looking for. Anywhere on this site to find the info?

 

[rwh]

quote:Originally posted by Arizonian

Thanks 'dclaryjr', you summed up about everything I was hoping to hear. I spent an afternoon at the range the other day trying this right forearm fanning motion, and as I mentioned in the original post I could really feel the power of accumaltor #3, but hit the ball like **** (fat, thin, hook, push, you name it).
I think the problem I was having (I'm a Hitter) was getting the feel of having the right forearm on plane, and driving right from the start down. The right forearm seemed out of position for nearly most of the downswing. The fanning motion does not seem to be hitter friendly.
Of course I know if YODA says, right forearm fanning is correct and doable in the hitting procedure, then it's well.... correct.
Now apparently what I've been doing is Brian's twistaway action or close to it. I got the idea from 10-18-D (which is labeled wrong, it's the 'single') is right from 'start up' is to fully arch the left wrist, and to fully bend the right wrist (setting the wedges). Now keeping the clubface on plane (no fanning) I simply am taking the club up with little pivot and driving to low point with accumalator #1.
I am interested to know more about Brian's 'twistaway', this may be the gem I'm looking for. Anywhere on this site to find the info?

You'll find it in Brian's Never Slice Again instructional article:

http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=222

 

[MizunoJoe]

6b,

I thought he was talking about Standard Wrist Action - Turn and Roll. Maybe he wasn't.

 

[6bee1dee]

quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

6b,

I thought he was talking about Standard Wrist Action - Turn and Roll. Maybe he wasn't.

I think he was - citing Brian's Twist action. I've been using single, 10-18-C-2 for most of my shots. Swing or Hit.

"Swing" feels so good I was always going into standard wrist action even when "Hitting" and screwing up some shots.

I'm trying to re-program the brain so I can go back and forth correctly. The feel of standard wrist and the unleasing of Acc#3 and 2 into the ball is a great groove to feel.
Of course, driving pp1 into the back of the ball seeks out pins - I like that, too.

Oh geez, oh know, Yoda taught us at the workshop to vary the thrust to vary distance much like a QB throws to a reciever or outfielder throws to the bases. All different distances, same arm action. I guess our recent visitors couldn't understand how that works since the science would rebuff that idea.