How to perform the Manzella "Twistaway" correctly

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Brian Manzella

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"Alex Limco" is a forum member who is trying to improve his game. He is having problems with the "Twistaway" and says doing it hurts his wrist. HE also says—at first—he didn't realize that when he Twisted, he needed a flat left wrist.

I hope the following clears the "Twistaway" up for everyone.

In my video Never Slice Again, I introduce my concept of the "Twistaway."

Quite simply, it is the rotation of the golf club—about the shaft—in the direction of closing the face from wherever it is.

If you do it, you will ALWAYS HAVE A FLAT or even slightly ARCHED left wrist.

You can do this with next to ZERO force when posing the swing, but during the swing, various torques are put on the clubhead and shaft, that make it easier at time and harder at others.

Here is STONE FACT about the twistaway:

Unless you have a very strong grip,

Everyone who can play a lick, does the Twistaway at some point prior to impact.

In Never Slice Again, we are trying to fix golfers who slice and have NEVER learned this essential move, and thus try—unsuccessfully—all sorts of other things to square up the golf club.

In Never Slice Again, we are proposing that a Slicer needs to apply this twist pretty early in the backswing, and then keep it applied—best that they can—all the way to the finish.

If you were REVERSE TWISTING—and almost every slicer does—the "Twistaway" may feel uncomfortable.

IMPORTANT NOTE: If it hurts, do it less, and swing easier.​
The keys to the "Twistaway" are the right wrist bending straight back early—as opposed to cocking—and using the left arm to assist the wrist in the movement.

IMPORTANT NOTE: If you are trying to TWISTAWAY, and you continue to slice, you are probably not rotating the WHOLE ARM AND LEFT ELBOW inward toward you.​
I can promise, if you do the ten steps in Never Slice Again, you won't slice anymore, and you will have TWISTAWAY in your "toolbox" and will be able to apply it less, or later, for whatever kind of shot you need.

Also, every slicer who buys NSA should pay close attention to how to MODIFY the twist to keep the ball from going too far left.

And, every Never Slice Again-er should eventually watch The Soft Draw Pattern to see some options they have down the line.
 
Is this why you frequently end up moving people to a more neutral grip? Because they're missing out on this basic swing movement whent they use a strong grip? Also, what else does twistaway aid in, besides keeping the clubface from opening too much, and flattening the left wrist?
 
Hi Brian,

Thanks for the reply. I realise the folly of my foolishness in being too eager to 'perfect' the pattern and did not take into account my natural (or should I say unnatural tendencies) to swing the club a particular way.

Should have paid more attention that what was in the video and to attempt to learn the concept using 'baby swings' as you recommended in the video.

You wrote
IMPORTANT NOTE: If you are trying to TWISTAWAY, and you continue to slice, you are probably not rotating the WHOLE ARM AND LEFT ELBOW inward toward you.

Are you referring to rotation during the backswing or after downswing?

Further to that, I see that during the backswing to achieve the twisting you are quite obviously bending the left arm quite a bit. I have this notion of trying to keep my left arm as straight as possible hence my problem with getting the twistaway done properly given my limited range of motions. Is it proper to bend the left arm as much or are you doing it to illustrate the twistaway?

Further to that, by keeping the twistaway and having a flat left wrist through impact, will also prevent flipping of the club this leading to a more solid impact. Am I correct?

On a side note, the left wrist is feeling much better now as I have went to a local Chinese 'bone doctor' and had it attended to. I will remember to put in a credit card into the back of my glove the next time and it will definitely remind me not to overdo any of those moves in the future.
 
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why is it that when i apply the twist away my ball is usally pull to the left or.shanking the ball? Am i swinging too much to the right?
 
why is it that when i apply the twist away my ball is usally pull to the left or.shanking the ball? Am i swinging too much to the right?

Probably not qualified to answer this but in the video Brian did mention that with this pattern you are going to hit the ball left. He does give a workaround somewhere near the end of the video about twisting away less and have a ala 'Tiger Woods' kinda a backswing instead of a twist away.

As for shanking, it is also mentioned in the video that you are lagging the hosel (which causes shanks) and the cause of it is that you have your right forefinger going under the sweet spot instead of directly behind during your downswing. Trust me, review the pattern somewhere about 30 mins or so when he had Adam in the video about the relation of the sweet spot and your right forefinger.

Just my 2 cents though. Perhaps Brian or someone from the Academy would like to comment on this too.
 

Brian Manzella

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Well...

Is this why you frequently end up moving people to a more neutral grip? Because they're missing out on this basic swing movement whent they use a strong grip?

You will always REVERSE TWIST with a really strong grip.

Also, what else does twistaway aid in, besides keeping the clubface from opening too much, and flattening the left wrist?

Prevent you from being a complete hacker.

:D
 

Brian Manzella

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Hmmm........ok, I'll play...

I realise the folly of my foolishness in being too eager to 'perfect' the pattern

I see nothing wrong with perfecting the pattern.

(I) did not take into account my natural (or should I say unnatural tendencies) to swing the club a particular way.

Your natural way will always be "there." Just adding a draw set up, a normal backswing, a shallow downswing, hotting the box, and swiveling, are all things your are ADDING to your "natural" motion.

I am quite sure they weren't there.

Should have paid more attention that what was in the video and to attempt to learn the concept using 'baby swings' as you recommended in the video.

Making full swings at less than full speed, is just a way to make practicing easier on your body, but still helps your coconut learn the new movement.

Are you referring to (using twistaway + left arm) rotation during the backswing or after downswing?

You HAVE to do it before impact.

Doing it, or at least some of it, on the backswing, is easier for some.

I see that during the backswing to achieve the twisting you are quite obviously bending the left arm quite a bit. I have this notion of trying to keep my left arm as straight as possible hence my problem with getting the twistaway done properly given my limited range of motions. Is it proper to bend the left arm as much or are you doing it to illustrate the twistaway?

I do not like a really straight left arm.

Most good players bend it more than you'd think.

And, I often get golfers who can't twist to add bend to help them be able to.

by keeping the twistaway and having a flat left wrist through impact, will also prevent flipping of the club this leading to a more solid impact. Am I correct?

Not having the clubface open—via the twistwaway—will take the reward away for flipping.

the left wrist is feeling much better now as I have went to a local Chinese 'bone doctor' and had it attended to.

I am sure glad for that.

I will remember to put in a credit card into the back of my glove the next time and it will definitely remind me not to overdo any of those moves in the future.

The credit card is just a drill, and by now, you shouldn't need it.
 
Hi Brian,

Thanks for all of your advise and comments. I will definitely work on it once the wrist gets better. In the meantime, I am viewing the NSA video as much as I can and will as advised work those parts into my natural swing.

Hopefully within a few weeks I can get from an In/Out driver slicer and iron pull hitter to an NSA golfer hitting in/out/in pulls :D.

After that, will definitely use SD to work a soft draw into my swing.

Regards.
 
...You seem to KNOW a lot of the swing "Alex."

As been said, knowing is one thing. Using your knowledge is another. Having a lot of knowledge about the swing amounts to nothing out there on the golf course unless one is able to use those knowledge to get there. :cool:

Your site and videos has been a wonderful help in getting my coconut to understand what is behind the 'swing'. In another topic, I saw that an in to out path with an open club face can actually result in hook/draw. And with an in to out path with an closed club face can actually result in a broken window.

I am sure learning a lot from this forum which I hope I can apply to myself someday and probably later on my kids if they are interested in the game.

In the meantime, let's enjoy. :D
 
Take that back to basics signature, with the little frowny face away, and I'll enjoy helping you more.

Point taken and noted. I have previously gone to the point of losing all confidence in my game and I really did mean to go back to basics. Throwing out all my misconceptions about the swing and start from the bottom again.

But, having been at this forum, I now know that we do not have to deconstruct our swing nor are we able to do so if so wanted to. Will now work on adapting all those information that is available into what I have and work for the best.

Thanks and keep up the good work. Really appreciate it.
 
So i was at the range determined to find out why I couldn't hit the ball straight with the twistaway. THe ball was flaring to the right with flat wrist at the top and enough twist away.
I think I subconsciously think that the ball is going to fly to the left since I have a more closed club face with the flatwrist at the top so i don't really rotate through. I'm used to softdraw pattern where I have softwrist at the top and less rotation since I have a slightly strong grip with softdraw. With NSA and the Twist away I use M Neutral grip. I start to get into NSA again because I felt like I have too much wrist movement at the top. Now with NSA I lag the sweetspot and rotate through with enough axis tilt on the downswing. It's definitely smoother but I haven't check the distance yet. We will find out tomorrow. :) I'm going to try to master every BM custom pattern. (hopefully)
 
Wrist feeling much better again after a week layoff from hitting any balls and lot's of exercise holding up the beer cans. :D

Going out now to hit the range and will report back later. Hopefully I am going to be able to get the twistaway correctly and for that matter, I am going to ignore ball flight and distance for the moment.

Cheerio.
 
Well, back from the range and manage to get some sort of a twistaway on the backswing and the wedding ring up on the follow through finish.

Ball direction was pull and pull/hooks through *all* my clubs. Even the skulled shots are going left now so it's a good sign. Once I get enough practice on this to be consistent, I will start incorporating NHA and SD into the swing.

I am going to get rid of my iron hooks and woods/driver slice forever and it's been a long time since I have hit my shots so consistently in one direction that's it is a nice feeling although the current swing is not good enough to go on to the golf course.

For all of you guys out there who has contributed and help, thanks a million. I think I am finally going to enjoy golf again. ;)
 
I tried twist away today at the Course and wedding ring up with lagging the sweetspot. I was hitting it straight and fading 1~2 yards. Could it be that I have a weaker grip?
My grip seems to be weaker and weaker I'm not sure if my club face is matching the back of my left hand anymore, a lil bit weaker or neutral looks the same to me when I have my hand out. I also notice midbody setup requires neutral grip, otherwise the club would sit on the ground with very closed face.
 
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I tried twist away today at the Course and wedding ring up with lagging the sweetspot. I was hitting it straight and fading 1~2 yards. Could it be that I have a weaker grip?
My grip seems to be weaker and weaker I'm not sure if my club face is matching the back of my left hand anymore, a lil bit weaker or neutral looks the same to me when I have my hand out. I also notice midbody setup requires neutral grip, otherwise the club would sit on the ground with very closed face.

It could be you are not hooking the sweet spot at the downswing. Generally when I did it I was executing swings at 60% so that my coconut can get the 'feel' and the concept.

Remember that at impact the right hand forefinger has to be behind the clubface (or the sweet spot) and not under it. And at the beginning of the down swing, you will need to slide your hips a bit more into the left in order to let the clubs swing outwards due to your upper body pivot.

But I would think that you would be happy with such a result of mostly straight and small fades. I am going along NSA as I frequently have 2 way misses with the woods and driver but pull/hooks with the irons. I determined this to be due to my adjustments to counter the slice that was in my swing and I am coming way outside/in, hence I am now working to have all my ball flight to be in one direction before I move on.

Regards.
 
Went out to the range again today and the dreaded old ball to the right and curve right came back again. It's like a total lose of the feeling that I had just yesterday evening. :confused:

I am pretty sure I was doing the twistaway on both the back swing and the follow through though I am not sure if I was maintaining the tilt much as I was alone with no one around to assist me. I did 'feel' that I was lifting (standing) up through my backswing on some shots thus I am not sure if that is a contributing factor. Maybe my large bell contributes too in restricting my flexibility through turns.

I guess it's back to more practice and the old drawing board again. Will be reviewing the video again later today to see if I missed anything out.
 
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