Hozzle shots

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Kevin Shields

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Hell, yeah

There are many different ways, prob too many to list. Anything that moves the club too much out can cause a shank. Including hand path from the top or from the bottom, hips that "hump" the ball, throwaway, a flat swing that has too much in on the way back and too much out coming down. I think anyone who has taught more than me could probably list more:D
 
Lagging the hosel IS the main problem with shanks. Of course there are things that make it easier or more difficult to lag the hosel, and that list is very long.


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OK. I think I was lagging the hozzle. I hit about 50 range balls with my driver, trying to fix a slice. Then I tried a swings with my 7i and kept hitting the hozzle. will try again today.
 

Kevin Shields

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Lagging the hosel IS the main problem with shanks. Of course there are things that make it easier or more difficult to lag the hosel, and that list is very long.


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I agree that lagging the hosel is the MAIN reason for shanks. But it is far from the only reason, which I believed to be his question.
 

Burner

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OK. I think I was lagging the hozzle. I hit about 50 range balls with my driver, trying to fix a slice. Then I tried a swings with my 7i and kept hitting the hozzle. will try again today.

You may just have been preparing yourself for a touch of the Darren Clarke's whilst trying to fix your slice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVsTKT1mTr8

More common than most people think.

PS: Ignore the utter bilge that the commentator is spouting and let the camera be your witness to what really happens.
 
Well I went back the range today and was hitting the ball beautifully. Fixed the slice with the driver. Irons were going high and straight. But then near the end of the bucket the dread hozzle shots started coming back. hmmmmmm........
 
Watch your footwork, I start hitting the dreaded hozzle rocket when I shift the weight from my heels to my toes on the downswing. Overswinging can cause this, keep that weight on your heels.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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Here's the thing, lagging the hosel is WHY you shank; HOWEVER the conditions that can create a "lagging hosel" condition can vary.

BUT

The main reason why people shank is they over rotate (clockwise) the sweetspot. Hit shots with your right thumb off the club, this will help limit your sweetspot rotation.
 
Set up a plane board, put the shaft on the plane board, keep it there while you hit short shots with the ball 1" away from the plane board (sweet spot line) and it's impossible to hit a shank.

Lag the hosel all you want. If the shaft is on plane you can't shank it.
 

Kevin Shields

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Please explain how you can shank if the shaft is on plane. The base of the planeline is inside the ball, no? I would think you could shank if you never rotated the sweetspot at all, provided you did something to move the shaft to the sweetspot plane. Darren Clarke's clubface is coming through pretty square on his shank.
 
doubled,

That's my point.

No doubt the sweet spot and hosel are on the same plane in the downswing, in most cases, and there is some rotation required to allow the sweet spot to get to the ball, but if the shaft is on plane and the the face is "wide open," then you will hit it right, not shank it.
 

Kevin Shields

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I'm sorry,cmartin. If it didn't come across that way, i was definately agreeing with you. Good post, cuz that's what i thought, you would just hit it way right.
 

Brian Manzella

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Misunderstanding.

Here it is folks.

If you lag the hosel—and we are talking LAG PRESSURE—you won't have the shaft on plane, unless you have ZERO eye-hand coordination.

You see, you "hit it" with what you feel.......;)
 
I'm guessing due to the way the club is designed you still feel the sweetspot but now it's tucked behind the........

...?
 

PBH

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Please explain how you can shank if the shaft is on plane. The base of the planeline is inside the ball, no? I would think you could shank if you never rotated the sweetspot at all, provided you did something to move the shaft to the sweetspot plane. Darren Clarke's clubface is coming through pretty square on his shank.

The planeline goes through the middle of the ball.
 
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