I finally "get it"

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Jim Kobylinski

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Its funny how the golf swing is so much "take one step foward, two steps back, then take 5 steps foward."

Because that is what really has happened to me in the last few months. But i worked through it all and with the help of Brian, Lynn's site, EdZ and MANY OTHERS i finally "get it."

I can alterante swinging and hitting at will (something i could never do before). I can perform all three hinge actions at will (had a hard time with horizontal before due to not swinging right).

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Now do i have a perfect crossline hip slide for hitting? No, but i can still perform it really well. Do i trace a perfectly straight plane line? No, not all the time. But you what i do, do well?

1) i have a flat left wrist (i think for forever due to brian)
2) i have lag pressure (something i never even knew about before)
3) i can trace a fairly straight plane line (i bend a little to the left towards the end)

Because i can do the three above i'm a pretty good golfer and in reality thats all you need to do too. This isn't something new either, brian's been preaching it for a long time. I think too many of us get caught up in the hoopla that is TGM and the technical aspects of it. This is why i learn what i can from the forums and apply it the best way i know how. And that which i can't, i go see brian. I think its a much easier way to do things.

You need to be comfortable and confident in what you're doing or your golf swing is going to suffer. I lost over 10mph of swing speed just TRYING to get back to something that resembles a swing. Now that i'm very comfortable "swinging" my driver i brought it all back and was getting the readings i normally do with my swingmate. Distances at the range will back to normal. I guess i finally just learned to "hold on to the club and hit the ball with your pivot."

Thanks to Brian and everyone else

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LOL...by the way. How do i hit a relatively straight ball while using a swinging procedure? I like the new found draw but i'm just not used to it. I liked my older hitting/angled hinge motion that went almost dead straight. Am i not hitting far enough to the inside aft quadrant of the ball? Thanks
 
oztrainee

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Well done Jimbo... Excellent...

We may say the concept of TGM is simple and at the same time it can be so difficult. I just back from Australia and spent a few days with Ben Doyle and Bob Schaeffer and try to understand the craft a little bit more. TGM is very much similar to the freemason, some of the stuff there are very detail, and is interesting to talk about...Ben even show me the TGM secret handshake too.
I leart that from them, helping someone to built a flat left wrist is not as difficult as it seems to be. I think what make it easy to learnt a better impact positing is very much the

Chip, Pitch and punch, learning the hinge action... and spend time in the bunker hitting sand instead of ball. You will be amaze you can actually turn a 24 handicapper to have a better impact poistion base on the above training in a few days. Also, you will find that a lot of teaching pro never come across TGM will find that fasinating too.

This forum is great, and I have pick up a lot of excellent information here.

Thanks:)
 
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wanole

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congrats. I still am trying to feel this lag pressure with a normal club.

Horizontal hinging is SOOOOO hard to learn for a former flipper. It takes a while to get use to it.
 
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Brian, what is the best way to get a the horizontal hinge in your swing? Is it in the sand trap drill that Ben teaches were you get the sand out. I have always had a hard time with this Since I use to play with a really strong grip and would just hold on so it would not go left. I still hold on, If i could just figure out this wedding ring up I might have something.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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I found the way for me to learn it was to hit 1 arm wedge shots that were crips, went a decent way, and had a very little draw.

I focused on:

opening to the plane
cocking up the plane
coming down the plane
rolling to the ball
rolling back to the plane
cocking back up the plane
 
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EdZ

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Horizontal hinge is an area where certain training aids can be very helpful. Check out the PureSwing (www.rovergolf.com) or others like the 'assist' or one of my favorites, the 'protater' (both of which are good, but the pure swing has the added benefit of a great flat left wrist check through the swing).

In short, roll that left forearm and flat left wrist as hard as you can, while hitting DOWN and OUT until you can hook the heck out of it, then back off to 'smooth' and 'heavy' with a neutral grip.

stop, drop and roll

'feel' like you stop at the top, let your arms 'drop' and then 'roll' that left forearm
 
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anakin

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For a full short like driver, I presume the only option would be using a horizontal hinge isn't it? or Full transfer ?

Obviously, for other mid size/short iron, we would have more option there?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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anakin...you can hit or swing a driver. You can also employ any 3 of the hinges. However there are certain ones that tend to come from each style.

For instance swinging leads toward a natural horizontal hinge, however you can "manipluate" it for angled or vertical. The angled hinge would be your "Fade" shot and vertical, well wouldn't be very useful for a driver.

For hitting, it usually leads toward an angled hinge. However you can manipluate it for horizontal (very hard) or vertical. The angled works really well because it puts so much backspin on the ball it tends to go straight or fade slightly. This, i feel, leads to better accuracy.
 
oztrainee

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Jim,

Why is it harder, for hitter doing a horizontal hinge follow through?

So, in your opion, hitter or swinging is easier?
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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to horizontal hinge or "Full roll" it with hitting is very difficult and takes a lot of hand manipulation. I was able to do it for a while until i really figured out swinging. Now i just swing to get a horizontal hinge.

Also the hinge is applied to the ball at impact, not the follow through.

Hitting/Swinging....both are easy; once you LEARN how to do them. Until i learned swinging, for me, was harder. But now i understand it so its really easy.
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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quote:Originally posted by jim_0068

to horizontal hinge or "Full roll" it with hitting is very difficult and takes a lot of hand manipulation. I was able to do it for a while until i really figured out swinging. Now i just swing to get a horizontal hinge.

Also the hinge deals with impact, not the follow through. Not versed enough to tell you exactly "when."

Hitting/Swinging....both are easy; once you LEARN how to do them. Until i learned swinging, for me, was harder. But now i understand it so its really easy.
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oztrainee

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Correct me if I am wrong, what I am saying is:

If you are thinking of doing the hinge action in the follow through, you had already done it during the impact... ?
 
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