i left wanting a lot more from this video.....sadlowski
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Those guys are amazing. I was a roommate my first two years in college with the guy who won the 2000 Re Max long drive championship (viktor johansson). Brought him home for a weekend to play my home course (6800 yard par 72)and he drove the green (or hit it pin high) on 7 of the par fours and never had more than a 7 iron on a par five.
This was 1995 and Viktor was using a Goldwin driver. His club head speed was measured as high as 139 mph during that time frame. The last time that I talked to him he told me that the highest he has been clocked at is 160 mph.
The head professional there, who played with us was in disbelief all day that somebody could hit the ball that long.
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My experience with Art and Jamie last month at PGA National
http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/golfing-discussions/13136-long-drive-champs.html
http://www.brianmanzella.com/forum/golfing-discussions/13136-long-drive-champs.html
Kevin Shields
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I only watched it once but was there anything new presented at all that we havent heard a million times?
Jared Willerson
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Probably not....just more talk about the Long Driver "X-Factor" and other junk
Michael Finney
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More discussion on:
ball position
angle of attack
shaft lean
launch angle
spin optimization
smash factor
shaft deflection
shaft torque
shaft weight
swing radius
shortening the swing radius
role of the left arm bend pre-impact
the spine's roll in jamie's swing
a little more on the kinetic chain and how it works
maybe a discussion of the now famous pull back, run up, and jump
the role of the feet and ground shear forces
a discussion of centripetal and centrifugal force (which is ficticious and why
)whether jamie conserves angular momentum
whether jamie is a swinger, hitter, switter, or hinger
whether jamie ever considered the basic motion curriculum
would have been nice to see an actual belly view, slow motion look at the downswing - and a down the line look too.....only saw above head view (which was good by the way)
the video pretty much touched on the same old stuff - x factor stretch, flexibility, etc.....i was looking for more 3D insight while watching the world's longest hitter...
am i asking too much of buck?
vjsinger
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More discussion on:
ball position
angle of attack
shaft lean
launch angle
spin optimization
smash factor
shaft deflection
shaft torque
shaft weight
swing radius
shortening the swing radius
role of the left arm bend pre-impact
the spine's roll in jamie's swing
a little more on the kinetic chain and how it works
maybe a discussion of the now famous pull back, run up, and jump
the role of the feet and ground shear forces
a discussion of centripetal and centrifugal force (which is ficticious and why
whether jamie conserves angular momentum
whether jamie is a swinger, hitter, switter, or hinger
whether jamie ever considered the basic motion curriculum
would have been nice to see an actual belly view, slow motion look at the downswing - and a down the line look too.....only saw above head view (which was good by the way)
the video pretty much touched on the same old stuff - x factor stretch, flexibility, etc.....i was looking for more 3D insight while watching the world's longest hitter...
am i asking too much of buck?
Thanks. Maybe you are asking too much of him, or Maybe he knows the answer to most of those questions and was told that it's too much info. for the masses by his boss, I dunno.
One question. Does the "X-factor" exist? It seems to me to be a reasonable concept. When I see pictures of long hitters really bending the shaft at the top and bottom of the swing, it really looks like(by the look on their faces and bulging of muscles) they are putting a considerable amount of musculature effort into bending the club. If it does exist, What do you think JMac screwed up in his explanation of this concept? Thanks again.
Michael Finney
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maybe
all too common alibi, but maybe - doubtful
it does in 3D world.....the "click pause" numbers tell a small part of the story...the kinetic chain graphs (which are not very user friendly yet from a visual stand point) show much more of the story
Who is JMac?
Michael Finney
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mclean...sorry
i asked him if he wanted to take back the somewhat derogatory article he wrote in either GD or Golf magazine about sergio.....mclean said that he had too much lag and that would be his downfall....
he denied writing the article in front of 120 club pros....
that's fairly telling
as far as his description and definition of the x factor, i disregarded the entire concept with respect to my teaching - i'm not saying that it's not valid - but i did not incorporate it into my lessons
i asked him if he wanted to take back the somewhat derogatory article he wrote in either GD or Golf magazine about sergio.....mclean said that he had too much lag and that would be his downfall....
he denied writing the article in front of 120 club pros....
that's fairly telling
as far as his description and definition of the x factor, i disregarded the entire concept with respect to my teaching - i'm not saying that it's not valid - but i did not incorporate it into my lessons
vjsinger
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Denied writing the article?? That's goofy. Did he blame it on his right hand man, Carl Welty? One more question, sorry. What about the "X-factor stretch"?? Is that real, does the transition really happen that way? It seems like in this swing(around the 1:00 mark) of Tiger his right scapula gets closer and moves down to his spine when he starts down, allowing Tiger to "stay closed to the target" longer. Tim Lincicum, Strasburg, and smaller pitchers that throw the ball hard have this same movement. Would you teach someone this? Does this even matter?
Tiger:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPnZE3IrHWk[/media]
Tim Lincecum/Sadlowski Scapula moves:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ6o5DCr_h8[/media]
Tiger:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPnZE3IrHWk[/media]
Tim Lincecum/Sadlowski Scapula moves:
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ6o5DCr_h8[/media]
I think that he focused too much on the differential between the shoulders and the hips, and by using still photographs to demonstrate it. It left the impression that these guys aren't turning their hips in the backswing, especially considering that when you freeze the swing when the shaft stops and changes direction, the hips have already started their downswing move.
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