If you are zeroed out with a 6 iron...
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willimatic
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I'm no expert but I think there is a few answers depending on how you got zeroed out. Correct?
For example, the more you hit down, the more left your divot will be than someone who does not and probably deeper as well.
For example, the more you hit down, the more left your divot will be than someone who does not and probably deeper as well.
Steve Khatib
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Left of target. But remember there are many ways to produce a zero out. There are some instructors that I will not mention that use trackman to zero people out but produce the funkiest combination of components to justify it. I like a more orthodox zero out a few degrees in or left and hit down a little.
willimatic
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Yes, I meant left of the target. That's exactly what I was trying to say as well, there are many of ways you can zero it out.
At what point does the divot start to go left?
My understanding is that the ball is struck around 2 degrees inside out so that would mean at the point of impact the clubhead is still going right....or has trackman changed this as well and the ball should be struck 2 degrees outside in?
I am still a little confused about swinging left based on the above.
My understanding is that the ball is struck around 2 degrees inside out so that would mean at the point of impact the clubhead is still going right....or has trackman changed this as well and the ball should be struck 2 degrees outside in?
I am still a little confused about swinging left based on the above.
Kevin Shields
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There would be no way for the path to be zero at separation if it was 2 degrees inside out at the point of contact.
Kevin Shields
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Face angle is a calculation
Update
Since I don't have a trackman anywhere in my state, I am using my divots as a guide. I got several divots today that were small rectangles that were straight but slightly left, and some that were slightly left of target with a little curve left. Ball flights were very consistent from slight 'pull' to straight to small fade. Divots were very shallow and contact was good.
Since I don't have a trackman anywhere in my state, I am using my divots as a guide. I got several divots today that were small rectangles that were straight but slightly left, and some that were slightly left of target with a little curve left. Ball flights were very consistent from slight 'pull' to straight to small fade. Divots were very shallow and contact was good.
So does that mean the ball is struck slightly outside in to be zeroed out?
Kevin Shields
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I dont think so, no. The ball might be struck so slightly inside out to allow for some travel during impact interval but Tuxen says the ball is on the face soooo little it basically doesnt matter. If the plane line was straight it would be struck on the way down and inside and the same at separation. So you move the horizontal base line left until impact point on the ball is neutral.
Matt Bryda
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Because we are only talking about the 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch part of a REALLY BIG FLATEND ELIPSE!
Matt
And the time interval between impact and separation is about 4 ten-thousands of a second (0.0004) and not many people can comprehend how short that is!
Not much time to change the face during impact interval (even if you are trying!!).
Think about it. If the face could rotate 2 degrees in 0.0004 sec, it is rotating (2 divided by 0.0004) 5,000 degrees in 1 second. Or 300,000 degrees in a minute. Since there are 360 degrees in 1 rotation, the shaft would have to be rotating about 800 RPM. Don't think so.
Not much time to change the face during impact interval (even if you are trying!!).
Think about it. If the face could rotate 2 degrees in 0.0004 sec, it is rotating (2 divided by 0.0004) 5,000 degrees in 1 second. Or 300,000 degrees in a minute. Since there are 360 degrees in 1 rotation, the shaft would have to be rotating about 800 RPM. Don't think so.
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