Is there a drill for driving the shoulder down?
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Brian Manzella
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Skipping rocks.
Jim Kobylinski
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As much as you would think the above would help, it will only help if you are CORRECTLY drawing a straight plane line. You can learn how to draw a staright plane line with an off plane right shoulder movement no problem (thats what got me all screwed).
So Erik's advice will work, IF you know where the plane is for the right shoulder.
Brian's idea of skipping rocks is the best.
oztrainee
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Using a Strong Single underhand Grip 10-2-F, forcing the right forearm on plane as well as putting the right knee at a better position as well as a better foot action.Then going through the 12-5-X, and is no harm to hit rather then swing even though you are a swinger (even though if you think you are a swinger) for a while. Then go back to Swinging procedure and 10-2-D grip, once you can chip, pitch and punch with a good 3D impact.
I recently picked up one of the Harmon laser trainers. I can trace the straight line with the sweet spot. I find that the laser from the but end of the club is about 8 inches out side the line towards the flat backswing side of the mat.
I am using it in the living room and am a little afraid of getting too upright with it and hitting the ceiling so I have put it away till I can get it to a place with ample overhead room. Then I can give Eriks suggestion a better shot.
Brians skip rock thought feels good as a practice drill and preshot drill but occasionally something goes wrong and I hit fat. Plus I sometimes feel like I am being too active with my right arm and loosing my swingers feel and am overpowering the swing with my right arm.
I have hit some prety good shots when I get my hands just to the right of my right shoulder with my elbow fairly close to my right side then turn through feeling kind of like I am leaving the club head behind me or dragging it through. The description is a bit vague but it's hard to put into words.
Steve
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You don't actively move the right shoulder downplane really.....or push/pull down with the right shoulder.
I like to feel like I'm using my left shoulder....that's where the pull comes from......I know what the right shoulder does but I don't try to do anything with it.....I even monitor my left shoulder (i.e. PP#4) if I'm Hitting (along with the hands of course- more subconsciously once they're trained though)......I don't really pull with it though, I move my body with it.....Aiming Point.
The hips have to slide first.....this makes for Axis Tilt....(when the tailbone moves ahead the spine tilts away from the target)......this move essentially moves the right shoulder downplane.....or at least opens up a path to do so.
"Skipping rocks."
Examine that motion.
You don't actively move the right shoulder downplane really.....or push/pull down with the right shoulder.
I like to feel like I'm using my left shoulder....that's where the pull comes from......I know what the right shoulder does but I don't try to do anything with it.....I even monitor my left shoulder (i.e. PP#4) if I'm Hitting (along with the hands of course- more subconsciously once they're trained though)......I don't really pull with it though, I move my body with it.....Aiming Point.
The hips have to slide first.....this makes for Axis Tilt....(when the tailbone moves ahead the spine tilts away from the target)......this move essentially moves the right shoulder downplane.....or at least opens up a path to do so.
"Skipping rocks."
Examine that motion.
birdie_man
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Exactly.....I heard that tip and immediately started hitting shanks.....I started pushing I guess.
(especially not good when your swinging- i.e. pulling)
You have to understand what the right shoulder DOES.....one thing being moving downplane.....but I agree Joe, that doesn't mean you should try to do it with the right shoulder.
(especially not good when your swinging- i.e. pulling)
You have to understand what the right shoulder DOES.....one thing being moving downplane.....but I agree Joe, that doesn't mean you should try to do it with the right shoulder.
Brian Manzella
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Here ya go LSH...
Stand FACING A WALL, where your head is against the wall.
Make a backswing with your arms folded across your chest.
NOTICE!! how close your left shoulder comes to the wall, as you make a backswing turn.
On the downswing, "Fit" your right shoulder in and under as CLOSE TO YOUR BODY—AND AS FAR FROM THE WALL AS POSSIBLE!!!
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Stand FACING A WALL, where your head is against the wall.
Make a backswing with your arms folded across your chest.
NOTICE!! how close your left shoulder comes to the wall, as you make a backswing turn.
On the downswing, "Fit" your right shoulder in and under as CLOSE TO YOUR BODY—AND AS FAR FROM THE WALL AS POSSIBLE!!!
Fixed.
MJ I think you have hit it. I took a bag of balls to the field yesterday afternoon and hit them terribly. I couldnt hit two balls in a row that were anything alike let alone any good.
We had a couple decent days now the weather is turning cold again for a couple weeks and it's probably a good thing. I will practice some impact alignments inside and see if I can find some drills to do that will emphasize using my core to turn.
Steve
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