is this the move, downplane

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is this the move??? i have no problem doing it in slow motion, when i try to do it regular speed i cant keep the right elbow close to my hip on the downswing. trying to get in the slot, ignore the dipping of my head as i am exaggerating the move.

 

Kevin Shields

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I know they're only rehearsals, but it might help if you send the left shoulder up plane a little instead of closed so much and practice turning the sweetspot off the plane. Red Sox fan? How 'bout Beckett tonite?
 

Brian Manzella

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The Slot?? What Slot??

You'll never hear me taking about the slot.

'Cause there is no one slot for every pattern.

The one you are demonstrating is sort of the downstroke of a "Double-Shift."
The double shift is a shift from the elbow plane on the backswing, up to the turned shoulder plane at the top, and back to the elbow plane before impact.
You are also doing "what you are doing," with a very down and back Right Shoulder.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MANZELLA-ISM:

If you are trying to do something, and you can pose it, but can't do it during a "real" swing, it is because you hit it worse when you do.
So....where does the ball go when you "try" to do it?
 
red sox looked really good tonight, beckett killed it. when i try do this the ball goes right, i feel like when i swing my shoulders want to go around me on the downswing and club gets outside.


You'll never hear me taking about the slot.

'Cause there is no one slot for every pattern.

The one you are demonstrating is sort of the downstroke of a "Double-Shift."
The double shift is a shift from the elbow plane on the backswing, up to the turned shoulder plane at the top, and back to the elbow plane before impact.
You are also doing "what you are doing," with a very down and back Right Shoulder.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MANZELLA-ISM:

If you are trying to do something, and you can pose it, but can't do it during a "real" swing, it is because you hit it worse when you do.
So....where does the ball go when you "try" to do it?
 
You'll never hear me taking about the slot.

'Cause there is no one slot for every pattern.

The one you are demonstrating is sort of the downstroke of a "Double-Shift."
The double shift is a shift from the elbow plane on the backswing, up to the turned shoulder plane at the top, and back to the elbow plane before impact.
You are also doing "what you are doing," with a very down and back Right Shoulder.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT MANZELLA-ISM:

If you are trying to do something, and you can pose it, but can't do it during a "real" swing, it is because you hit it worse when you do.
So....where does the ball go when you "try" to do it?

Dear Brian,

If I can pose it but can,t do it at full speed does that just mean that my old compensations are still present? Should I keep doing it right until I no longer miss it? Just curious.

Sustain the Lag,

John
 

Brian Manzella

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Great Question...

Dear Brian,

If I can pose it but can't do it at full speed does that just mean that my old compensations are still present? Should I keep doing it right until I no longer miss it? Just curious.

No!

You have to fix the 'pieces' that are keeping it from working, or go to Plan B.
 
I too was working on this exact same move last night at the range. Trying to get the right shoulder down and on the plane. Trying to get that right elbow coming off the pocket.
Like In the Manzella Show episode 4, I rewatched that yesterday. I think this move can help me lag the club more and not cast from the top possibly.

I hit some really nice high soft draws..But I hit a lot of fat hooks working on this. I was really trying to get a flat left wrist at the top and then come down and from the inside..Had lots of deep divots and lots of hooks,,,,any ideas Brian or anyone???,,sorry if this is a threadjack , I can start a new one if so?

thanks
Joe
 
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the drill i have posted above, not sure if correct but i am trying to add more body to the swing. this is the drill i am using and please feel free to coment. i try to imagine getting to the top of my swing and pretend that there is pole going through my hands and into my RIGHT SHOULDER. in order for my hands to start down my right shoulder must start down with it in sequence, it makes me feel like the arms are synchronizing with my right shoulder as long as my right shoulder goes down towards the ball like my hands. . check this out, thing of beauty.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rBosTCApYxI
 
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