Jim Flick artical....p1

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Mathew

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quote:We are always challenged with trying to make adjustments in our game and in our minds. It really starts with the learning process and how we handle making changes.
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I know he's trying to make adjustments in his brain because he doesn't know what he is doing and moves from one gimmick to the next but why does he assume that everyone is like him.... Great swingers of the club do more reinforcing than learning/adjusting. An important part (regardless of the swing scores total technique) of a great player is the comfort of just 'playing' golf vs hmmm I didn't hit the shot well... next time ill try this *tip*. A professionals game hinges on this fact and this fact means that they need to be comfortable, hence they are not adjusting.....

This of course would be assuming that you are talking about good golfers which play good, if not then its even worse because his language dictates that he is crap in his own game....

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quote:We are always challenged with trying to make adjustments in our game and in our minds. It really starts with the learning process and how we handle making changes.
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Hence he cannot play but thinks he can teach ?

quote:The first challenge we face with our minds, besides attitude, is the philosophy surrounding your own game.
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Just a pity that you do not know anything about golfswing philosophy....

He uses the 'we' and 'our' again and then makes an ommision with *your* refering that at the the point of game philosophy as a challenge and that you need his help on a counterline.

quote:I have learned a lot from people I teach - - my students, and players Phil Blackmar and Jack Nicklaus, and also from a lot of teachers that have helped me understand my own game.
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Nice blatent name drop!

If it wasn't for one thing he would be saying a)Im credible b)Ive taught good players and c)Im s*** hot. What he started and ended the sentence with is 'I have learned alot from people I teach'. Let me get this right - did he just say that pupils come to teach him ? and also ' that helped me understand my own game'. So by this basically hes saying that he didn't understand it before and he was a 'swing cowboy' rather than 'engineer'. Let me tell you something *'Flick'* 'wink' yer crap....

quote:Mr. Jack Grout, one of the great teachers in the history of the game, taught Jack Nicklaus the simplest way to play golf. It was to realize that the big deal is the golf instrument and how to use it to apply the club head to the ball.
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Basically what your saying is that 'the big deal' is how to use a golf club properly so that the club hits ball and ball goes in air ....

Hmmm great - I must remember that one [xx(]:D


To be continued..... will post each one until its complete and then collate them together to make the full artical....
 
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Jim Kobylinski

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I'll agree with a lot of what you said but any good teacher learns from his students as much as the student learns from the teacher and that is true in any student/teacher relationship.
 
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diggerdog

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If you spent as much time building up your game as you do tearing down Flick's name,we would all know who you are. Flick has helped a lot of people along the way. Take what you can use and leave the rest behind.
 
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denny.

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First I tried his square to square method in 1970.Bad results. That you know who I am -----------doesn't matter. My students do and they are glad they do.I can show you 100s of before and after pictures(if I knew how to down load my A-Star files. The famous teachers are good at becoming famous. How could a teacher not reseach the work of MR.KELLEY. At least Harmon admits "He doesn't understand The Golfing Machine" unlike a pro out here who says "I don't believe in 'The Golfing Machine'
Some of us seek the truth and will listen and adjust others "Know It All"
 
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MizunoJoe

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I believe the "Square to Square" method was primarily Dick Aultman's thing, and published a book(which I bought) in the 80s. As I recall, the idea was that the leading edge of the clubhead had to remain perpendicular to the path of the clubhead at all times. Aultman later recanted the theory and apologized, but never offered to reimburse the buyers.
 
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denny.

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I believe they taught rt. wrist bending on the takeaway witch is what Homer, A.I.s Dante ,Faldo,Alberts, Manzella teach.They also taught to severely restrict the backswing hip turn This messed up my plane.
 
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MizunoJoe

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cdog,

Others pointed out to Aultman that many players rotate the leading edge of the club into the plane of the swing and rotate through impact(TGM Swinging). And that was back when everyone thought(and many still do) that there was only one correct way to swing a golf club.
 
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