Jim Kobylinski
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This is a copy/paste from a post on bombsquadgolf.com by a user there who apparently has professional experience. Not sure how much or where (hides his identity) but he used to play professionally and frequented Jimmy Ballard. Here are his notes on his swing split into 3 categories, what do you think?
Copy/Paste below from user Tiberon:
"First, understand one thing....I am not posting this to debate the golf swing, so if you don't like what Jimmy Ballard teaches, then don't read it and go listen to someone else, because I could care less...not many teachers have students that have won all 4 majors and not all coming from the same person (ie...Tiger) biggrin.gif !!!
I took years and years of notes and broke them down into 3 categories....SET-UP, BACKSWING, OR DOWNSWING. The one thing about Jimmy, is his teaching method never changes, and it hasn't for 50 years biggrin.gif . He's not a "try this or try that teacher", and the longer you are around him, the more he sounds like a broken record, but that is a good thing...trust me!!! Alot of people don't realize, but when you see Gary Player play, and he walks through his shots, he got that as a drill from Jimmy 3 weeks before he won the 1978 Masters and he's been doing it ever since...it stops him from hanging back, which is something he fought for a longtime!
SET-UP
-Feet with the driver should be atleast shoulder width apart.
-The right foot is square; the left foot is flared out a quarter of a turn.
-A straight back at address promotes a level, less around swing. Drill: put the club behind the ball, then look at your caddy in front of you while taking your stance....then lower the eyes to ball (gets rid of the hunched look)!
-In the grip, both hands oppose each other in a neutral position.
-The ball is positioned off the left heel for full shots.
-The chin should be up, and the chest high.
-The shoulders should be level at address and my upper left arm plugged into my chest (feel like you have a short left arm at address).
-The left arm points down at a address...not at the target.
-Soft arms at address.
-The right arm should be above my left at address, not tucked under.
-Both kees are braced in at address.
-At address, the arms for a triangle with the butt end pointed at the middle of the chest bone.
BACKSWING
-On the backswing there is a loading of the weight into the inside of right foot and leg.
-The left arm should be bent and feel short the entire swing.
-The thumbs both feel like they are under the shaft at the top of the swing.
-The club works straight back (not around) with no forearm rotation...the triangle formed by the arms remains intact with the butt end still pointing at the chest bone. No angles or cocking of the wrist and feel toe down.
-The left hip, left shoulder, and head should all get behind an imaginary line drawn up from the ball.
-The right shoulder works up, not around.
-The right wrist is flatter, not cupped (as opposed to some who say you should feel like a waiter holding a tray at the top of the backsing yucky.gif ).
-The left heel comes up, and the left knee points behind the ball.
-Keep the same amount of flex in my right knee from address to the top of the backswing.
DOWNSWING
-The hips and shoulders work through impact with the eyes releasing to the target (ala. Annika....who in Jimmy's opinion has the most sound swing in golf!)
-If the head stays down and still through impact, there will be a hang back in your finish...REVERSE C!
-The only cocking in the swing "feels" like it is done by the elbows, not the wrists.
-Both elbows "feel" like they point down to the ground on the backswing, downswing, and when you finish.
--The left thumb and elbow work like you're "thumbing a ride" through impact. Don't get separation between the arms, because this leads to a blocked position.
-The elbows should finsih close together with a full body release.
-The finish mirrors the backswing.
-In the finish, the shoulders, eyes, and hips are all level.
IMHFO, there is no other method that holds up better under pressure. There is a longtime saying on Tour that is often repeated by some of the best players in the world...."if you need someone to hit the ball exactly 162 yds., then you hand the club to Hal Sutton notworthy.gif ".
I've had the pleasure of spending time with some of the best modern day instructors...ie Leadbetter and Harmon. Leadbetter has ended more careers than he has helped, and Harmon is the most appealing looking swing instructor, but nobodies method holds up better and is easier to follow than Jimmy Ballards. I remember having a discussion with Paul Azinger 14 years or so ago about modern day teachers, and he said that the thing he like about Ballard was that he actually turned golfers into successful Tour players (started working with Hal at age 17), not like some of these other teachers that turned already Tour players into better swingers....alot of people don't realize that Faldo was already #1 in the world when he started changing his swing with Leadbetter. That's every teachers wet dream come true!!!
Copy/Paste below from user Tiberon:
"First, understand one thing....I am not posting this to debate the golf swing, so if you don't like what Jimmy Ballard teaches, then don't read it and go listen to someone else, because I could care less...not many teachers have students that have won all 4 majors and not all coming from the same person (ie...Tiger) biggrin.gif !!!
I took years and years of notes and broke them down into 3 categories....SET-UP, BACKSWING, OR DOWNSWING. The one thing about Jimmy, is his teaching method never changes, and it hasn't for 50 years biggrin.gif . He's not a "try this or try that teacher", and the longer you are around him, the more he sounds like a broken record, but that is a good thing...trust me!!! Alot of people don't realize, but when you see Gary Player play, and he walks through his shots, he got that as a drill from Jimmy 3 weeks before he won the 1978 Masters and he's been doing it ever since...it stops him from hanging back, which is something he fought for a longtime!
SET-UP
-Feet with the driver should be atleast shoulder width apart.
-The right foot is square; the left foot is flared out a quarter of a turn.
-A straight back at address promotes a level, less around swing. Drill: put the club behind the ball, then look at your caddy in front of you while taking your stance....then lower the eyes to ball (gets rid of the hunched look)!
-In the grip, both hands oppose each other in a neutral position.
-The ball is positioned off the left heel for full shots.
-The chin should be up, and the chest high.
-The shoulders should be level at address and my upper left arm plugged into my chest (feel like you have a short left arm at address).
-The left arm points down at a address...not at the target.
-Soft arms at address.
-The right arm should be above my left at address, not tucked under.
-Both kees are braced in at address.
-At address, the arms for a triangle with the butt end pointed at the middle of the chest bone.
BACKSWING
-On the backswing there is a loading of the weight into the inside of right foot and leg.
-The left arm should be bent and feel short the entire swing.
-The thumbs both feel like they are under the shaft at the top of the swing.
-The club works straight back (not around) with no forearm rotation...the triangle formed by the arms remains intact with the butt end still pointing at the chest bone. No angles or cocking of the wrist and feel toe down.
-The left hip, left shoulder, and head should all get behind an imaginary line drawn up from the ball.
-The right shoulder works up, not around.
-The right wrist is flatter, not cupped (as opposed to some who say you should feel like a waiter holding a tray at the top of the backsing yucky.gif ).
-The left heel comes up, and the left knee points behind the ball.
-Keep the same amount of flex in my right knee from address to the top of the backswing.
DOWNSWING
-The hips and shoulders work through impact with the eyes releasing to the target (ala. Annika....who in Jimmy's opinion has the most sound swing in golf!)
-If the head stays down and still through impact, there will be a hang back in your finish...REVERSE C!
-The only cocking in the swing "feels" like it is done by the elbows, not the wrists.
-Both elbows "feel" like they point down to the ground on the backswing, downswing, and when you finish.
--The left thumb and elbow work like you're "thumbing a ride" through impact. Don't get separation between the arms, because this leads to a blocked position.
-The elbows should finsih close together with a full body release.
-The finish mirrors the backswing.
-In the finish, the shoulders, eyes, and hips are all level.
IMHFO, there is no other method that holds up better under pressure. There is a longtime saying on Tour that is often repeated by some of the best players in the world...."if you need someone to hit the ball exactly 162 yds., then you hand the club to Hal Sutton notworthy.gif ".
I've had the pleasure of spending time with some of the best modern day instructors...ie Leadbetter and Harmon. Leadbetter has ended more careers than he has helped, and Harmon is the most appealing looking swing instructor, but nobodies method holds up better and is easier to follow than Jimmy Ballards. I remember having a discussion with Paul Azinger 14 years or so ago about modern day teachers, and he said that the thing he like about Ballard was that he actually turned golfers into successful Tour players (started working with Hal at age 17), not like some of these other teachers that turned already Tour players into better swingers....alot of people don't realize that Faldo was already #1 in the world when he started changing his swing with Leadbetter. That's every teachers wet dream come true!!!
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