Just Watched Never Slice Again!

[Leftyplayer]

Hey Brian, I just want to say thanks for a great video of a hated golf problem. This will be my 4th year of playing golf seriously. From day one my most hated club has been the driver. My low to mid irons are pretty consistently straight. My driver on the other hand is a different story. I really want to correct my slicing/big fades this year for once and for all.

I came across this site and the video. I was a little hesitant at first, but read a few posts about the video and decided to get the web version. I watched it all the way through. The 10 points were great. The biggest thing was the "twist-a-way" point.

So after watching the video I headed over to the range with all this new found information. I warmed up with some sand wedge shots, then some 8 iron shots. I concentrated on getting my wrist turned on the take away. I was hitting some good draw shots. My normal ball path is a slight fade. Then I hit some 6 iron shots, about the same as the 8 iron. Then some 4 iron shots. I can't remember ever hooking or drawing my 4 iron. I did a few times but still hit more fades than anything. Then finally I pulled out my most hated club in the bag. My first 2 shots were slices...lol. I'm like "what the frig!". Then I concentrated on getting my wrist turned over. I hit a hook and then a couple straight shots, but not alot of distance. I'm still hitting more bad fades/slices than anything. The one thing that I found was that it is hard for me to keep my wrist turned at the top of my backswing. It just feels really alien to me.

I guess I'll just have to keep at it. Thanks again, hopefully with some more range time I can finally beat this frustrating problem.

-Chris

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

The hardest thing for a slicer to do in this pattern is to "hold the twist" on the downswing and to "turn the club to the movie screen." You really have to "hold the twist" because you are so used to letting the club OPEN.

Also to help you with turning the club to the movie swing, i want you to turn your left hand to the ground right before impact.

Now you won't be able to do it because the downswing is so fast, BUT just the mere thought of doing that before impact will help you get it done.

We're here to help if you need more clarification.

 

[Bill Miracle]

I've been playing less time than you...

but working on twistaway longer (since last fall). Keep with it. It gets easier.

Another thing....I started practicing twistaway before my first lesson with Brian. I thought I had it down but....no where close. Brian bent my hands into position so hard that I thought they were going to break (grin). But, he did it to illustrate how far back the hands really needed to twistaway.

I literally was getting tingling in my fingertips and some numbness from working on these positions. That was temporary though.

Good luck and keep working on it.

 

[Leftyplayer]

Also to help you with turning the club to the movie swing, i want you to turn your left hand to the ground right before impact.

Thanks guys for the tips and encouragement. Jim the above quote, you mean from a lefty's perspective, right?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

WHOOPS...for you it would be right hand

 

[Leftyplayer]

K thanks Jim. Whats the most common fault for hitting a mid to low ball with the driver. I use a 10.5 degree loft driver but don't seem to hit the ball high, even if I tee it up. Usually I'll just pop it up then.

 

[Leftyplayer]

I went out to the range today to work on things again. I feel I'm still having a hard time keeping my hand twisted all the way to the top of my backswing and down. I really concentrated on throwing my right hand (for a lefty) to the ground. I hit alot more consistent shots with a slight fade. Also, it seemed to get me under the ball better and get some air time.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Lack of axis tilt

 

[Bigwill]

Twistaway keeps the face looking at the ball on the way back, right?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Yes

 

[Bigwill]

Thanks. Once you're hitting it well with the twistaway, at what point in your development do you begin to back off of it?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

When you start hooking the crap out of it

 

[johngolf33]

What type of Hinge Action do you recommend with Twist-Away. I've always used Angled Hinging with it but does anybody ever try to Hrizontally Hinge with Twist-Away?

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

Almost everyone who uses the twist away is a slicer and will end up using angled hinging for most of the time. However over time you should, by default, start incorporating horizontal hinging because you are learning how to fully roll that left arm and that's when you start hooking it too much (plus you are swinging a bit to the right with this pattern as well).

So that's when you move to something else.

 

[Leftyplayer]

I spent some more time today at the range working on the twist-a-way with my driver. I'd say I hit about 30 balls. I really tried to concentrate on the twist, axis tilt, and throwing my right hand down. Out of those 30 balls, I only sliced 2. I hit a few worm burners...lol. Most of the balls I was pulling or hitting straight...woohoo. I'm gonna keep at it and hopefully rid of this for once and for all.

 

[Jim Kobylinski]

I spent some more time today at the range working on the twist-a-way with my driver. I'd say I hit about 30 balls. I really tried to concentrate on the twist, axis tilt, and throwing my right hand down. Out of those 30 balls, I only sliced 2. I hit a few worm burners...lol. Most of the balls I was pulling or hitting straight...woohoo. I'm gonna keep at it and hopefully rid of this for once and for all.

Great! Keep at it, it's hard to REALLLLLLY grasp the concept of the twistaway without showing you in person. People really don't understand how much twisting and rolling really needs to be done to get rid of the slice.

 

[jbrunk]

I am getting to the point where I am hooking it more. The key to the whole pattern for me was learning what it actually to correctly rotate the wrists/forearms in the swing. I had been doing the opposite to avoid my flip hook. The difference maker for me was to turn the left hand to the ground idea, and instant compression with a square face.

Keep twisting and rolling lefty, it works.

 

[Leftyplayer]

Played 18 here today. Took out driver on first tee and hit it straight down the right side of the fairway. After that my bad habits came back and I struggled with the driver a bit. It was just above freezing too so that might been bothering me a bit too. Its really frustrating, but I know I can beat this damn thing, gotta keep at it.