Keeping the back facing target

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Bigwill

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I was at the range the other day and discovered that I was hitting my best shots using this downswing feel. Having recently purchased TGM, I believe I am a swinger. But I can't see how this fits in with that procedure. Anyone else, especially swingers, use this swing thought? Thanks
 
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quote:Originally posted by Bigwill

I was at the range the other day and discovered that I was hitting my best shots using this downswing feel. Having recently purchased TGM, I believe I am a swinger. But I can't see how this fits in with that procedure. Anyone else, especially swingers, use this swing thought? Thanks
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Will,

Hey, any port in a storm!

Generally, the "keep your back to the target" idea is meant to cure the "over the top" move that throws the Right Shoulder "out" and, therefore, off plane. As Golfing Machines, we want the Right Shoulder to move downplane, and I suspect this is helping to keep your motion On Plane.

See Brian's articles on "Perfect Pivot" in the Instructional section of the Forum.
 
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Bigwill

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quote:Originally posted by rwh

quote:Originally posted by Bigwill

I was at the range the other day and discovered that I was hitting my best shots using this downswing feel. Having recently purchased TGM, I believe I am a swinger. But I can't see how this fits in with that procedure. Anyone else, especially swingers, use this swing thought? Thanks
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Will,

Hey, any port in a storm!

Generally, the "keep your back to the target" idea is meant to cure the "over the top" move that throws the Right Shoulder "out" and, therefore, off plane. As Golfing Machines, we want the Right Shoulder to move downplane, and I suspect this is helping to keep your motion On Plane.

See Brian's articles on "Perfect Pivot" in the Instructional section of the Forum.
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Thanks.
 
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diggerdog

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Something that works in a similar method is to put a dowel across the front of your chest, securing it with a rubber band around each bicept. Notice when your hands and arms take the club back up the plane, the dowel will be pointing east to west, assuming ball-to-target line is north. Begin your downswing keeping the dowel pointing east for as long as possible. the only way to get down to the ball is axis tilt, which happens almost without thought, as long as the dowel points east. As a gross exxageration, I like to imagine that my shoulder turn in my backswing doesn't get all the way back until impact. In other words, feel as if you are still winding your shoulders back into your downswing.
 
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EdZ

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Great post/drill Digger! The dowel image can also be a HUGE help in learning a proper takeaway - in helping people not 'roll' to the inside, keeping the clubhead outside the hands until hip high. It quite clearly gets you to see 'the' triangle, and its motion during the swing.
 
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rwh

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quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Great post/drill Digger! The dowel image can also be a HUGE help in learning a proper takeaway - in helping people not 'roll' to the inside, keeping the clubhead outside the hands until hip high. It quite clearly gets you to see 'the' triangle, and its motion during the swing.
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. . . .or, you can just trace the plane line with the right forearm and never worry about the club rolling inside again.
 
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FanofHogan

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quote:Originally posted by rwh

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Great post/drill Digger! The dowel image can also be a HUGE help in learning a proper takeaway - in helping people not 'roll' to the inside, keeping the clubhead outside the hands until hip high. It quite clearly gets you to see 'the' triangle, and its motion during the swing.
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. . . .or, you can just trace the plane line with the right forearm and never worry about the club rolling inside again.
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That is also true, but I think what Ed is implying with his statement is that for some people, they need a more visual clue as to what they are doing. Before I saw myself on video I would have sworn I wasnt taking the club back inside too soon. But there it was on video.
 
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rwh

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quote:Originally posted by FanofHogan

quote:Originally posted by rwh

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

Great post/drill Digger! The dowel image can also be a HUGE help in learning a proper takeaway - in helping people not 'roll' to the inside, keeping the clubhead outside the hands until hip high. It quite clearly gets you to see 'the' triangle, and its motion during the swing.
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. . . .or, you can just trace the plane line with the right forearm and never worry about the club rolling inside again.
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That is also true, but I think what Ed is implying with his statement is that for some people, they need a more visual clue as to what they are doing. Before I saw myself on video I would have sworn I wasnt taking the club back inside too soon. But there it was on video.
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Fair enough; I'm all for visuals. I was simply trying to provide an alternative to focusing on the shoulders as a backswing key.
 
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Brian Manzella

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Of course, shoulder turn takeway [can] be done, and for some it may work best, but MY history of dozens of stroje patterns attempted in competition, I had much greater success with a LIFT, not a turn going back.

But, alas, I also still hit it better just DROPPING my power package from the top and throwing a FRISBEE.
 
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holenone

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

But, alas, I also still hit it better just DROPPING my power package from the top and throwing a FRISBEE.
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Which would produce an On Plane Clubhead Orbit per the Downward and Outward Force Vectors of 2-N-1. :)
 
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MizunoJoe

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Brian,

How far do you drop before throwing the frisbee? If the hands get too low, you would have to throw the frisbee at the target instead of the ball. On the other hand, if you let hip rotation provide the throwout, then you don't need any hand/arm effort.
 
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