Keeping the head back

[jimmydean]

Anyone have any good thoughts or drills to keep one's head back? My tendency is to let my head move forward, causing pushes and hooks. Thanks.

Jimmy

 

[bts]

Eliminate your intent to "move the clubhead and ball toward the target" and focus on "moving the clubhead toward its finish position".

 

[rbaumgolf]

Try exagerting the motion of keeping your head back during the swing and you'll find you are really not exagerating it. Turn around the spine....

 

[Brian Manzella]

Get your rear end forward.

TILT!

 

[rwh]

quote:Originally posted by jimmydean

Anyone have any good thoughts or drills to keep one's head back? My tendency is to let my head move forward, causing pushes and hooks. Thanks.

Jimmy

A suggestion would be that maybe you've never really "felt" impact, follow-through and finish swivel with your head and upper body axis tilt in the correct position. If you can get someone knowledgable to correctly "pose" you in these positions, it would be a great help. First time this was done to me, I thought "no way" -- but when I looked in the mirror, I could see it was correct.

 

[Erik_K]

quote:Originally posted by bts

Eliminate your intent to "move the clubhead and ball toward the target" and focus on "moving the clubhead toward its finish position".

BINGO!

SWING to the target. Thing of the flag stick as a giant magnet pulling your club toward it. Instead of hurling your body toward the ball, think of throwing the club to the target!

 

[Garth]

When i try to have excessive Axis tilt, i seem to hit everything very straight, but also usually very Thin. Any ideas why i can't get down to the ball properly when I'm "leaning back" ?

 

[wanole]

me too Garth.

 

[Jared Willerson]

I can easily see that axis tilt is the secret to getting the right shoulder down plane. However, I still want to roundhouse the shoulder and add axis tilt which results in ugly thinned shots as well as a shank or two. After a couple of swings I realize I'm throwing out the right shoulder instead of starting it down and I hit it a little better but can catch it fat.

Where is the middle ground?

 

[Garth]

Glad I'm not alone... Maybe we could get a video answer on this one Brian? Would help me out ALOT ! thanks.

 

[birdie_man]

You guys prolly need Lag Pressure, no?

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i.e. watch for the flip.

 

[wanole]

we three seem to have the same issue. It's tough to get out of roundhousing. Thin, fat..etc....

what does lag pressure have to do with this? the fat part? releasing to early?

 

[Garth]

You guys prolly need Lag Pressure, no?

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i.e. watch for the flip.

I don't think so. I've tried with both hanging on/bowed wrist/verticle hinge, as well as with a full release/FLW/horizontal hinge. I think that somehow the low-point is being moved. I know it shouldn't, and Brian shows in one of his videos that the low point stays the same, but i can't seem to grasp that. I feel like if I had the ball off my left toe, I'd probably miss the ball completely.

 

[birdie_man]

I dunno....

The only other thing I can think of is that you're over-doing it....and really leaning (falling) back (away from the target). You still have to keep your balance.....(head no further back than Brian's logo really) and you still have to hit down.

You should be turning left and tilting at the same time....it's one blended move really. Gotta find that happy-medium I guess.

I'm sure Brian will know more.

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Maybe work on a few pitch/punch shots with the ball forward in your stance?

 

[Little Brit]

I have been having that problem too, and have found for me that I have to be careful not to not let my head be part of the tilt but to keep it still. It worked really well last time out. Hopefully it will continue to be good.

 

[pieman]

hope brian can help clear this up as well. when he said previously to get the rear end forward, i hope he clarifies this a bit. is this a 'bump' of the tailbone to go forward adn have the head staying back? also, how to keep from hitting thin with a steady head? seems if you hit down you move the head to a slightly lower position. maybe some of this needs to go in a diff. thread, but any help is greatly appreciated.
thanks

 

[Burner]

hope brian can help clear this up as well. when he said previously to get the rear end forward, i hope he clarifies this a bit. is this a 'bump' of the tailbone to go forward adn have the head staying back? also, how to keep from hitting thin with a steady head? seems if you hit down you move the head to a slightly lower position. maybe some of this needs to go in a diff. thread, but any help is greatly appreciated.
thanks

pieman,

Watch Brian's signature swing (old forum) and see his "rear end/tailbone forward and stationary head" move.

His upper body (right) stays back and down whilst his lower body (left) drives forward and up.

BTW Brian, where has the swing gone? Can you resurrect it?

(Edited once realised that Brian's swing was no longer part of his signature on the new forum.)

 

[Garth]

pieman,

Watch Brian's signature swing (old forum) and see his "rear end/tailbone forward and stationary head" move.

His upper body (right) stays back and down whilst his lower body (left) drives forward and up.

BTW Brian, where has the swing gone? Can you resurrect it?

(Edited once realised that Brian's swing was no longer part of his signature on the new forum.)

Screw that... I got sick of looking at that fudged swing. (kidding)
Seriously though, is there any chance of a video answer on this one BM? It seems like quite a few people are struggling with this concept after seeing CoaFF.