Laid off
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Jim Kobylinski
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Your left arm has rotated too much clockwise or "palm down." A good way to get rid of that is to always make sure you are feeling the #3pp BEHIND the shaft.
The more and more you turn that left arm the more "under" the feeling will become.
The more and more you turn that left arm the more "under" the feeling will become.
Do you have a complete shoulder turn (90 degrees plus) and a complete left wrist cock (90 degrees plus)?
If you do, then you may be like Badds, who has his left arm below shoulder level, which prevents him from getting the clubshaft parallel to the ball-target line, despite a completed shoulder turn.
See - http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/Badds-EndBackswingComp.jpg
Jeff.
If you do, then you may be like Badds, who has his left arm below shoulder level, which prevents him from getting the clubshaft parallel to the ball-target line, despite a completed shoulder turn.
See - http://perfectgolfswingreview.net/Badds-EndBackswingComp.jpg
Jeff.
Brian Manzella
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I have a great anti-Laid Off drill, and I'll poist it up in video form tonight.
I have a great anti-Laid Off drill, and I'll poist it up in video form tonight.
I'm not sure if it was to prevent getting laid off, but Brian gave me a drill during lessons in March that help me a lot in this respect. Basically, take the club and put in on your right hip, gripping down the shaft so the grip end is actually touching your side. Make a backswing to the top from this position and then back down, placing the grip end back on your right side on the way down. When I work w/ this idea, I CAN'T get laid off at the top. Brian can probably explain this better.
Jim Kobylinski
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This is a good point that some people don't realize:
If you don't get to parallel, because the butt end of the club SHOULD be still pointing at the extension of the plane line it will look slightly left of target.
However in kermitm's case, he said he is at parallel and it's still pointing left.
tongzilla
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brian, can you please add an anti-across-the-line-drill also (if you have one). Thanks!
I'd say forget paralell to the line! The clubhead is further away from the ball when it is not. Just hit from there, you'll be fine. And you will find it is more accurate and, as you get used to it, more powerful.
Where the club is laid off should make a difference in the look at the top, should it not? For example, my club gets laid off from about halfway back to the top, and tends to lay off further from the top of the backswing to first half of downswing. Interested in seeing Brian's drill, but should'nt one look at when the club is being laid off, rather than focusing on its appearance at the top of the swing? For example, if it gets laid off halfway back, it is difficult to get the club back on plane at the top of the swing.
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Video post would be nice and more information. Because there could be many reasons why you might be laying the club off at the top. But without the video -for now if you have an interest-
How do you know that you are laid off at the top?
What kinds of corrections have you made that have not worked?
Why didn't they work- i.e. did you hit the ball terrible while trying to make a change so gave up on that particular change? Or did you try to make a change but still found yourself laying it off?
Explain the process that you use to correct a problem in your swing.
If we saw your swing or your ball flight pattern in action - other than the laid off clubshaft at the top, what negatives would we see in the movement? What negatives would we see in the ball flight?
What's your average scoring range?
In general what type of ball flight is most common for you with your driver- straight- pull- push-draw - fade?
If not covered in the above - Dodger brings up a good point- where else is it not "on-plane"?
Video post would be nice and more information. Because there could be many reasons why you might be laying the club off at the top. But without the video -for now if you have an interest-
How do you know that you are laid off at the top?
What kinds of corrections have you made that have not worked?
Why didn't they work- i.e. did you hit the ball terrible while trying to make a change so gave up on that particular change? Or did you try to make a change but still found yourself laying it off?
Explain the process that you use to correct a problem in your swing.
If we saw your swing or your ball flight pattern in action - other than the laid off clubshaft at the top, what negatives would we see in the movement? What negatives would we see in the ball flight?
What's your average scoring range?
In general what type of ball flight is most common for you with your driver- straight- pull- push-draw - fade?
If not covered in the above - Dodger brings up a good point- where else is it not "on-plane"?
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