Late draw...how??

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Jamma

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There's a topic/debate about late draw goin' on on this finnish golf-forum I read regularly.

Could someone here give an explanation how to hit that particular shot??
 

Jim Kobylinski

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There's a topic/debate about late draw goin' on on this finnish golf-forum I read regularly.

Could someone here give an explanation how to hit that particular shot??

Are you asking how you hit a shot that goes relatively straight and then draws at the end?
 

Jamma

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Yup, i guess that's just what I'm asking.

I remember Nick Faldo saying when he was analyzing a hole on some golf course, that people who really can work the ball, use late draw there.
 

Jim Kobylinski

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The easiest way is to play a slight pull draw:

Aim slightly right of target and come over it slightly with a normal swing. You should hit a nice pull (towards your target) that should draw at the end.

There are other ways but this is probably the easiest.
 
In terms of physics you need A LOT of headspeed, so that the force directed to the target overlaps the small sidespin of the ball
for the first three quarters of the ball flight.
The small ammount of leftspin you get with your clubhead just 0,5 deg closed relatively to your swingpath
(or in reality vice versa, as the starting direction of the ball is more or less perpendicular to your cubface).
 

Jim Kobylinski

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In terms of physics you need A LOT of headspeed, so that the force directed to the target overlaps the small sidespin of the ball
for the first three quarters of the ball flight.
The small ammount of leftspin you get with your clubhead just 0,5 deg closed relatively to your swingpath
(or in reality vice versa, as the starting direction of the ball is more or less perpendicular to your cubface).


I completely disagree, what is "a lot of headspeed?" I can hit a 60* wedge that draws 4-5 yards with absolutely no flip with only my left arm.

I have done it for countless students and use it as a drill to help swingers.
 
Swing on plane, have a neutral grip, and use a horizontal hinge. The only time you should 'mess' with your stance is when trying to hit a pull draw...

Drawing the ball is easy...

Oh yeah... and dont screw with your clubface...
 
Swing on plane, have a neutral grip, and use a horizontal hinge. The only time you should 'mess' with your stance is when trying to hit a pull draw...

Drawing the ball is easy...

Oh yeah... and dont screw with your clubface...

As long as the ball position is a bit forward, I'd agree. If not just close the clubface. Too easy.
 
LATE !!!!

Hit it straight with a slightly closed clubface.

Swing on plane, have a neutral grip, and use a horizontal hinge. The only time you should 'mess' with your stance is when trying to hit a pull draw...

Drawing the ball is easy...

Oh yeah... and dont screw with your clubface...


LATE DRAW not DRAW is the question !
... and therefore, the headspeed in relation to the degree of the open swingpath (inside out in relation to the perpendicular blade) is relevant.
So straight, straight, straight, straight, draw, landing - we want - not straight, draw, draw, draw, landing.
Of course you can also have a LATE draw with less headspeed, but then the swingpath must be nearly perpendicular to your blade in the impact-zone.
 
LATE DRAW not DRAW is the question !
... and therefore, the headspeed in relation to the degree of the open swingpath (inside out in relation to the perpendicular blade) is relevant.
So straight, straight, straight, straight, draw, landing - we want - not straight, draw, draw, draw, landing.
Of course you can also have a LATE draw with less headspeed, but then the swingpath must be nearly perpendicular to your blade in the impact-zone.

Yep, "late draw" requires compression.
 
I've honestly never even thought of a hitting a shot that moves late.

Maybe a shot that moves less...

...

U can't just aim further right...?

Hit higher if u need to stop it some?

...

BTW I dunno how the heck you'd hit a shot that moves late....the only thing I can think of is more backspin?? Dunno.
 
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