Left Foot Moving..video?

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Brian, Can you please do a video on weight shift and the reason for someone moving the left foot out after the relase inetravl when swinging a fairway wood or a driver? I am sure it has something to do with improper weight shift. Thanks.
 
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quote:Originally posted by palmreader

Brian, Can you please do a video on weight shift and the reason for someone moving the left foot out after the relase inetravl when swinging a fairway wood or a driver? I am sure it has something to do with improper weight shift. Thanks.
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There is NO CONSCIOUS weight shift. This is a golfing "Old Wives Tale".

You SHOULD NOT move your weight over to your right leg nor should you shift it back to your left leg before you start down again.

Stay in balance.

Your weight, evenly distributed over your centre of gravity, SHOULD NOT be disturbed by your upper body rotation on the backswing AS A CONSCIOUS ACT, no forces are involved that require this to happen.

Just stand upright with your feet apart and simply turn your upper body to your right to prove this point. The golf swing is no different.

Once the downswinging force takes you into, and through the impact area, however, your weight will, as part of this process and the force generated, be pulled over to your left side and you will brace yourself over your left leg in order to stay in balance.

This is a natural consequence of the down, out and forward, swinging force; rather than a deliberate and pre-planned move which can, and often does, destroy the whole rhythm and balance of a correctly executed swing.
 
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Thanks, Burner. I wil try not to think about weight shift and let it happen automatically during driver swing, and see where it will lead me to.
 
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I think Brian has said something about your weight shifting automatically on the way back because your spine is in the BACK of your torso.....and when you turn 90 degrees (normal backswing turn- "to 3 o'clock") the spine is STILL in the back of your torso.

I think it's in one of his videos.
 
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quote:Originally posted by Burner



Once the downswinging force takes you into, and through the impact area, however, your weight will, as part of this process and the force generated, be pulled over to your left side and you will brace yourself over your left leg in order to stay in balance.
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That's a perfect description of "whip and catch", rather than "squat and whip", which you want. You must get to the left side before the upper body unwinds. Otherwise, you're out of sequence.

http://www.golftipscc.com/practicetee/practice09_04/index.html
 
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palmreader

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quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

I think Brian has said something about your weight shifting automatically on the way back because your spine is in the BACK of your torso.....and when you turn 90 degrees (normal backswing turn- "to 3 o'clock") the spine is STILL in the back of your torso.

I think it's in one of his videos.
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Birdie,

Any idea which one? I have all the videos except "Never Slice again" Thanks
 
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quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe



That's a perfect description of "whip and catch", rather than "squat and whip", which you want. You must get to the left side before the upper body unwinds. Otherwise, you're out of sequence.

http://www.golftipscc.com/practicetee/practice09_04/index.html
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Mizuno, Thanks for that link. Look like something I need to figure out. I am not doing this wierd thing during iron swings, but the CF force is smaller in iron swing than the driver. Somehow the driver swing CF takes me completly off my balance (I think).
 
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quote:Originally posted by MizunoJoe

quote:Originally posted by Burner



Once the downswinging force takes you into, and through the impact area, however, your weight will, as part of this process and the force generated, be pulled over to your left side and you will brace yourself over your left leg in order to stay in balance.
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That's a perfect description of "whip and catch", rather than "squat and whip", which you want. You must get to the left side before the upper body unwinds. Otherwise, you're out of sequence.

http://www.golftipscc.com/practicetee/practice09_04/index.html
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And that is the kind of golf instruction that has been holding people back for generations.

There is no need whatsoever to jump onto the right foot, or "stack weight above it", before reversing the process by "stacking weight back over the left foot" prior to start down. It simply is not necessary - the weight could conceivably, in that scenario, stay stacked over the left leg whilst all of the the upper body rotation takes place.

The object of the whole excercise is to make a rhythmical swing whilst staying in balance. Heck guys are even catching on now to keeping the right foot flat on the ground until impact has been made and that is not easy if "stacking up" over the left leg has already taken place.
 
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And that is the kind of golf instruction that has been holding people back for generations.

There is no need whatsoever to jump onto the right foot, or "stack weight above it", before reversing the process by "stacking weight back over the left foot" prior to start down. It simply is not necessary - the weight could conceivably, in that scenario, stay stacked over the left leg whilst all of the the upper body rotation takes place.
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That's not what he's doing! He's turning behind the ball, not off of it, and then moving into the left side. You must get the lower part of your spine forward, well before the hands come into impact.

Here's a guy who's been held back by getting his right hip past the center of his stance before his snap release.

http://www.megspace.com/sports/moetown/videos/couples_side_clip.html
 
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palmreader

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Looks like a slight reverse pivot to me??
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Swing, I am pretty sure I do not have reverse pivot. I move to the right (as brian advocates) during back swing and try to stay behind the ball throughout thw swing. However, what I think, and what I do may be different. This does not happen during practice swings. It happen only when the little white ball is there and swinging the driver or 3 wood. (not even long irons).
 
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Nope - he's "mooning" the target - perfect BS, staying inside the right instep.
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Mizuno, what do you mean by "mooning" the target? Now I am paying more attention to it, I feel like my weight is on the left toes even after iron swings. Do you think that makes me unstable during driver swing? Thanks
 
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Heck guys are even catching on now to keeping the right foot flat on the ground until impact has been made and that is not easy if "stacking up" over the left leg has already taken place.

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Burner, I beleive Brian had talked about somewhere of keeping the right foot down until impact occurs. Does this make the swing less effective?
 
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Nope - he's "mooning" the target - perfect BS, staying inside the right instep.
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Mizuno, what do you mean by "mooning" the target? Now I am paying more attention to it, I feel like my weight is on the left toes even after iron swings. Do you think that makes me unstable during driver swing? Thanks
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Turning the back pockets towards the target against the pressure of the inside of the right heel with the right knee slightly straightening.

There's no way the weight could be on your left toes in the finish, even with an open stance, if your hips turn through the shot properly, and the club stays on plane. Make sure the shaft is moving back inside after low point.
 
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quote:Originally posted by palmreader

quote:Originally posted by birdie_man

I think Brian has said something about your weight shifting automatically on the way back because your spine is in the BACK of your torso.....and when you turn 90 degrees (normal backswing turn- "to 3 o'clock") the spine is STILL in the back of your torso.

I think it's in one of his videos.
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Birdie,

Any idea which one? I have all the videos except "Never Slice again" Thanks
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You know what, I'm not sure man.....I'm not even sure if it was from his videos....I think it may have been though....I was watchin them all a few days ago....it would be in the Swinging/Hitting vid. (short #1), the Hinges vid. (#2), Never Hook Again (#3), or STT vs. RFT (#4).

I'm thinkin Never Hook Again.
 
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quote:Originally posted by palmreader


Burner, I beleive Brian had talked about somewhere of keeping the right foot down until impact occurs. Does this make the swing less effective?
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Not sure where I first heard about keeping the right foot down, although the idea is gaining sway as the enlightened move away from the dogma that has been fed to us over the years.

Jumping about all over the tee (hopping from right to left feet - bobbing and weaving) has never been a good idea to my mind and caused me untold problems until I learned to keep from doing it.
As few moving parts as possible is an objective that we all might strive for.

Mr. Kelley, on page 7 of the 6th edition in his description of THE MACHINE, makes 21 statements, the first two of which are:-

1) The Stationary Post (player's head) accurately returns the Clubhead through the ball (Centered Arc).

2) The Post may turn (Pivot) but does not "sway or "bob".

Certainly, Mr Kelley saw bobbing and swaying, as "Snares" - refer to 3-F-7-C and 3-F-7-D.

Both of these "Snares", however, are very capably demonstrated by Shawn Clement in the clip that Mizunojoe put up as an example of a proper weight shift that we should all follow.

I don't think so, Joe.

Palmreader, here is a LINK to a thread on this forum regarding weight shift and keeping the right foot down, 50/50 balance, and so on, that you might find enlightening.
 
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MizunoJoe

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quote:Originally posted by Burner



Certainly, Mr Kelley saw bobbing and swaying, as "Snares" - refer to 3-F-7-C and 3-F-7-D.

Both of these "Snares", however, are very capably demonstrated by Shawn Clement in the clip that Mizunojoe put up as an example of a proper weight shift that we should all follow.
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Burner,

You have been spending too much time in the land of the tripod. [:p]
 
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