Left Toe at Finish

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What???!! You mean the left toe is allowed to come off even if you are hitting a draw with a slightly weaker than neutral grip? Don't you also have to be super flexible to do this?
 

Damon Lucas

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Tongzilla,
yes, it is ok, and yes it is more likely to come up for a low fade than a high draw.
Number of factors to consider:-

1. Foot and ankle flexibility;
2. How square or flared the foot is;
3. Type of shot;
4. Power/speed generated

Footwork is an interesting subject, and i know a couple of teachers who start their analysis of their students' golf swing with a 'look' at footwork. I am interested as to 'why' that might be.

I know Brian wants the club to 'work like a club' and am interested in his take on all of this...
 

Brian Manzella

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Shot shape and (Left) footwork.

If you swing more inside-out, your weight goes (for a time) more toward the ball of your left foot then it does on a swing that is less inside-out.
 
Your "swing theories" rejected under debate and experience....again!

So there ya go, Ringer.

Nothing wrong with the left toe coming off at finish. Even if you're hitting a draw with a neutral grip! Many hall of famers have done it and, and many will continue to do it.
 

Michael Jacobs

Super Moderator
The Tibia

If you swing more inside-out, your weight goes (for a time) more toward the ball of your left foot then it does on a swing that is less inside-out.

Good post Brian, I use all this as feedback when I am playing.....

The shin bone (tibia) plays a large part in this, when you swing more like a never slice again pattern - you have less rotation in the shin bone therefore its more towards the toes of feet

when you swing more like a never never hook again, the shin bone rotates more therefore movement is towards the heel

this is along with my divot obviously, is how I monitor my plane line when I play and practice on my own
 
Tongzilla,
yes, it is ok, and yes it is more likely to come up for a low fade than a high draw.
Number of factors to consider:-

1. Foot and ankle flexibility;
2. How square or flared the foot is;
3. Type of shot;
4. Power/speed generated

Footwork is an interesting subject, and i know a couple of teachers who start their analysis of their students' golf swing with a 'look' at footwork. I am interested as to 'why' that might be.

I know Brian wants the club to 'work like a club' and am interested in his take on all of this...

Yes Damon...so it's not just the type of shot played, although that is important. How dynamic your pivot is (power/speed generated) also is a big factor. Some people just hit it so hard that the left toe has to come off with a driver.
 
A GIGANTIC rotation of the torso can result in the inside of the toe comming off the ground. If you can do it, all the more power to ya. For the rest of us less flexible people who don't need to bring the club pointing back to the target at the finish, I prefer a flat front foot for several reasons.

It's an indication of better balance, it's indicitive of what I believe to be a proper hip turn, and ensures that a person is swinging FORWARD rather than up or pulled away from the ball.

It is possible to have a straight or even draw ball flight when rolled out, although much more difficult and requiring some manipulation of either the setup, grip, or armswing.

Your balance on the finish is DIRECTLY tied to the swingplane so long as you let it be. It's always possible to FORCE some other situation but good luck doing it consistently.
 
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