Left wrist breakdown - causes and fixes

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BerntR

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For years I've been struggling with inconsistent distances on full strokes. Several days, I struggle to carry 100 yards with the PW and on the better days I easily carry 110 yards with the GW.

Massive power leak. Due to improved game management this doesn't cost me as many strokes as it used to, but generally I drop more shots from T to green than in the short game. I have a handicap of 6, and at least 5 of them are from T to green.

Correlating with this inconsistency is the divots. They are generally much to steep and deep - and more normal when I on the rear occations strike the ball really well.

Having studied TGM, I have reached the conclusion that left wrist breakdown between release and impact is the cause. So I am working on keeping the bent right/stright left wrist through impact. But this is not so easy.

So - to Brian and any other with the right knowledge: What are the major causes and fixes to left wrist breakdown - or should I say breakdown of the flying wedges.

Best regards,

Bernt
 
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6bee1dee

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The breakdown of the left wrist prior to impact might be because you are trying to put the clubhead on the ball before your hands reach its aiming point beyond the ball. There is no way the left wrist can bend or break or the clubhead thrown away ahead of the ball if the hands drive to the aiming point and the clubhead lags behind. Forget about the clubhead and contact. Educate the hands and all will be good on the links.
 
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hue

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Chip , pitch then build up to a full swing. Drop back to the smaller motion if you feel you are not keeping your impact hands to the point where both arms are straight in the followthrough. Take your swing down to the low point beyond the ball opposite your lead shoulder with the hands leading. Work on impact fix and hitting an impact bag. Do lead arm only swings keeping your shaft up your left arm. Practice this by cutting daisies at first then when you get something going hit little chips. Do right arm only chips keeping the trail wrist bent back. Use a mirror and look look look to incubate and validate. Work on lag . Drag a heavy wet mop with the hands leading working on the heavy lag feel as well as impact hands. Push a piece of 2x4 wood forward from impact fix right way through to the end of the swing keeping the lead wrist flat Hogan style. Keep at it and practice little and often.
 
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drewitgolf

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The following is one of my favorite posts by holenone (Yoda):

"Your Left Wrist is Bending during Release and Impact because your Right Wrist is Flattening. And your Right Wrist is Flattening because during (or after) the Release of the Left Wristcock, you are incorrectly attempting to continue that Wrist Uncocking Feel instead of correctly Rolling the Hands.

After the Left Wrist has moved from Cocked to Level -- it is never Fully Uncocked (the Full Extension of the Primary Lever Assembly that results in Zero #3 Accumulator) until after Impact -- the Overtaking (of the Hands by the Clubhead) is accomplished by the Roll of the #3 Accumulator to the end of the Follow-Through. If this correct action is replaced by 'False Feel' Wrist Action -- misapplied #3 Pressure Point Pressure causing a Horizontal Motion in the Right Wrist -- the inevitable result is a Bent Left Wrist and Throwaway.

So, to cure your Bent Left Wrist, you must learn to complete the Release -- Sequenced or Simultaneus (2-P) -- by the proper Left Wrist Action into Impact and Left Hand Hinge Motion into the Follow-Through. But learning these Mechanics is not enough. For total victory, you must overcome the First Snare -- the urge to Steer (3-F-7-A) -- and this requires learning to drive the Ball into the ground and not into the air or 'toward the Target' (6-E-2)."



Both 6Bee and Hue give sage advice. Remember to Look, Look, Look and make sure it is Flat.
 
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BerntR

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6bee1dee, hue and drewitgolf,

This sounds like very good advice.

Driving to the aimingpoint might be the recipe to get me back on the right track. It awakens good memories. The First Snare might be where I'm right now. I will head for the range this wery moment.

I tried to address this with the club pro last year. But instead of breakdown (I wasn't much into TGM then) I was conserned with the effects - to deep divots and lack of distance and distance control. He said I shouldn't focus on distance. Instead he told me to practice with an earlier wristkock in the back swing. The advices I got cost me at least two months...

But this makes sense

Thanks a lot.
 
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Thanks for all the good advice, interesting and useful. But having said that keeping the bent right wrist is not a easy thing to do though. One more piece for BerntR
A question for BerntR, how would you describ your top hand grip (Left hand), and how soft is your left forearm? What I learn from Mike Jacob, is that he has a very strong top grip and I find that helps a lot if you could feel like having a soft left arm with a "sensation" of having a bent left elbow. Yet, it is impossible to have a bent left arm on Impact, as the centrifugal force will keep it staight anyway. By gripping the club like that would help you to maintain the wrist position as well as rotating the shaft easier.
 
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BerntR

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quote:Originally posted by oztrainee

A question for BerntR, how would you describ your top hand grip (Left hand), and how soft is your left forearm? What I learn from Mike Jacob, is that he has a very strong top grip and I find that helps a lot if you could feel like having a soft left arm with a "sensation" of having a bent left elbow.
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I try to play with a neutral grip with my top hand. One that feels neutral at address. When I startet playing golf, I gradually strenghten my grip until I played with a definitive draw. That grip was difficult from rough and it punished the short game severely.

Later on - when I discovered how to produce a truly powerful release - I went in the opposite direction with a very weak grip. With that grip I could swing very agressive down and out - and produce magnificent high draws even with a 1 iron. And I've never produced better strokes from the rough than I did with this grip and setup. I literally had my top hand under the shaft throughout the release with that grip. And it was a good companion to the short game as well. However, it felt very unnaturally at setup - and I had to do some moves in the takeaway that were hard to do on a consistent basis.

The best shots with either extreme was equally good - and very good indeed. Strong grip required more body effort to produce the result. with a weak grip the body was more like a launching pad. Just creating the pressure and let the arms and hands create the speed.

Now I am aiming for the grip that comes natural on setup. Because it must be the most repeatable. And because when weaker and stronger works - so will this.

My left forearm is very soft. In fact both my arms are soft to the top when I strike the ball as best. I might even have a little bend in the left on the top of the swing. I don't stress the shaft until hip height in the down swing - and try to maximise the pressure in the release and maintain it as far as possible.

BTW - focusing on aiming point today helped a lot. After two buckets I discovered that my hands were disconnected to my upper body. When the right arm takeaway clicked in, I was able to produce the same shots almost without any effort. I wasn't able to do them at full swing - but I am on the right track.
 
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quote:Originally posted by BerntR

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BTW - focusing on aiming point today helped a lot. After two buckets I discovered that my hands were disconnected to my upper body. When the right arm takeaway clicked in, I was able to produce the same shots almost without any effort. I wasn't able to do them at full swing - but I am on the right track.
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You must keep the pivot moving through the strike and beyond to keep your impact hands . Check your pivot as well asyour hands
 
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Brian Manzella

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My new Video "Confessions of Former Flipper," addresses the two main things you "have to get in your coconut" to not flip it.

They are....AIMING the hands, and "Hitting it with your pivot."
 
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