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Hello,
I want to know if my left hand grip is strong, ie. thumb down the side of the grip, three knuckles showing, will my left hand be this way at impact? Or will my hand position change from address to impact? I'm really asking if the flat left wrist is necessary.
 

ej20

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quote:Originally posted by jefbowe

Hello,
I want to know if my left hand grip is strong, ie. thumb down the side of the grip, three knuckles showing, will my left hand be this way at impact? Or will my hand position change from address to impact? I'm really asking if the flat left wrist is necessary.
I read somewhere that the grip will naturally return to neutral through impact ie.2 knuckles showing..therefore a strong left hand grip will help close the clubface at impact naturally.If you try to flatten or supinate the left wrist with a strong grip,you will duck hook or hit a straight pull.

Hogan liked to supinate his left wrist through impact and he had a weak grip.
 
Jeff,

I might be misinterpreting your question, but I don't believe a "flat" left wrist means that the back of the wrist needs to face the target at impact (although many prefer to do it that way). "Flat" only refers to the angle between the back of the hand and the forearm. With a strong grip, it would face toward right field.
 
quote:Originally posted by armourall

Jeff,

I might be misinterpreting your question, but I don't believe a "flat" left wrist means that the back of the wrist needs to face the target at impact (although many prefer to do it that way). "Flat" only refers to the angle between the back of the hand and the forearm. With a strong grip, it would face toward right field.

That's my understanding of a flat left wrist too, I also used to think it meant the back of the left wrist faced the target..
 

ej20

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quote:Originally posted by densikat

quote:Originally posted by armourall

Jeff,

I might be misinterpreting your question, but I don't believe a "flat" left wrist means that the back of the wrist needs to face the target at impact (although many prefer to do it that way). "Flat" only refers to the angle between the back of the hand and the forearm. With a strong grip, it would face toward right field.

That's my understanding of a flat left wrist too, I also used to think it meant the back of the left wrist faced the target..
A flat left wrist facing the target is not necessary with a strong(3+ knuckle)grip.It is necessary with a weak(2- kuckle)grip.I'm also assuming that the clubface is square to the target line in relation to your grip.

I have a still of John Daly dead on at impact.He plays with a very strong left hand grip.Back of his left wrist is not flat and not facing the target but his hands are still in front of the clubhead with the shaft leaning forward.
 
Is it possible to have a bent left wrist with the shaft leaning forward? Are you sure that Daly doesn't have a flat left wrist that is turned?
 

Brian Manzella

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Yes, it can be bent and forward lean is present.

Also...can we STOP with the knuckle junk!!!!

How many DEGREES is it out of neutral?

That is the question.
 

Eminem

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Im with Brian phylosopy and always followed this train of thought.

Your back of the left hand acts as the clubface. Only with a neutral grip will it be possible without some manner of compensation to arrive squarely back to the ball at impact. If you flip around with a strong grip aka azinger, you might be able to square the face. I would rather avoid this but redmond his moron teacher thinks this is ok.

It is far more desirable at impact to have the back of the hand flat or bowed. Even for the reference point of knowing your left hand matches the clubface is worth it alone. It requires no flip to square making the swing less timing orientated.
 

ej20

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quote:Originally posted by Eminem

Im with Brian phylosopy and always followed this train of thought.

Your back of the left hand acts as the clubface. Only with a neutral grip will it be possible without some manner of compensation to arrive squarely back to the ball at impact. If you flip around with a strong grip aka azinger, you might be able to square the face. I would rather avoid this but redmond his moron teacher thinks this is ok.

It is far more desirable at impact to have the back of the hand flat or bowed. Even for the reference point of knowing your left hand matches the clubface is worth it alone. It requires no flip to square making the swing less timing orientated.
At address your left wrist is cupped whether you have a weak or strong grip.Flattening or bowing the left wrist into impact has the effect of closing and delofting the clubface,therefore your left hand grip had better be weak or your clubface is going to be facing your left foot at impact.
 

Brian Manzella

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ej20...

My left wrist CAN be flat at address if i put my hands way forward.

Also whether or not my left wrist is flat or not does not have 100% to do with clubface alignment.
 
quote:Originally posted by ej20

Flattening or bowing the left wrist into impact has the effect of closing and delofting the clubface...
Although I initially thought that flattening my left wrist into impact closed the clubface...
flattening your left wrist actually causes you to push, according to TGM instructors.
 

Brian Manzella

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...well... the ball WILL go more to the right with a flat left wrist than a BENT one as well as farther right with and ARCHED one.
 

ej20

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quote:Originally posted by brianman

ej20...

My left wrist CAN be flat at address if i put my hands way forward.

Also whether or not my left wrist is flat or not does not have 100% to do with clubface alignment.
Yes of course you can make it flat but it's not natural and will impede your wrist hinge.Nobody sets up to the ball with the hands that far forward..it looks and feels awkward.The vast majority of good golfers set up with the hands beneath the chin.That was my point.

Assuming that you do have a cupped wrist at address,won't a weak left hand grip mean that your clubface is open and the only way to square or close it is to flatten or arch the leftwrist somewhere during the swing?

Or are you suggesting that going from a cupped wrist to an arched one has no effect on the angle of the clubface?
 
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