lie angle check question
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Jim Kobylinski
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Ideal lie angle mark = center to slightly heel bias with a very thin looking mark and close to the leading edge
mjstrong
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As long as the ballflight was desireable.
Jim Kobylinski
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Not in my opinion...you shouldn't be adjusting the lie angle to compensate for some ballflight problem you are having; that is what the OEM do's and why most iron manufacturers "standard lie" has gone 3-5* upright than historical to compensate for all the slicers out there too.
mjstrong
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Practicality over ideal...
Agreed, it wouldn't be ideal. And you're right about the OEM's "fixing" people with more upright lies. But I am pretty sure that many Tour pros are fit to non "textbook" markings on their irons.
If a player of mine (or myself) is about to enter a competitive tournament season, and their "textbook" markings are producing slight left shots consistently, I'm going to fit them to mark slightly toe down. Changes can be made in the offseason to improve their technique (and markings).
Agreed, it wouldn't be ideal. And you're right about the OEM's "fixing" people with more upright lies. But I am pretty sure that many Tour pros are fit to non "textbook" markings on their irons.
If a player of mine (or myself) is about to enter a competitive tournament season, and their "textbook" markings are producing slight left shots consistently, I'm going to fit them to mark slightly toe down. Changes can be made in the offseason to improve their technique (and markings).
Steve Khatib
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Lie angle is all about the ball flight:
eg. -draw toe closing front edge mark - fade heel open mark mid sole
However there are so many factors that could change the mark that it would be impossible to provide a precise answer on a computer forum.
Non golf instructor club fitters cannot cut the mustard in fitting as they cannot link the swing/ ball flight to the club specs.
The most common problem I see is the misreads taken off fat shots hitting a lie board behind the ball, or a closing mark read as a flat mark.
We all know how deplorable the level of golf instruction is in the world don't we; well the level of so called clubfitting is as bad as the level of instruction.
eg. -draw toe closing front edge mark - fade heel open mark mid sole
However there are so many factors that could change the mark that it would be impossible to provide a precise answer on a computer forum.
Non golf instructor club fitters cannot cut the mustard in fitting as they cannot link the swing/ ball flight to the club specs.
The most common problem I see is the misreads taken off fat shots hitting a lie board behind the ball, or a closing mark read as a flat mark.
We all know how deplorable the level of golf instruction is in the world don't we; well the level of so called clubfitting is as bad as the level of instruction.
Bill Miracle
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So, what are some basics that the average forum member needs to know keep their crappy local club fitter in line?
Steve Khatib
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After they tell you what lie angles you require:
Ask him/her where low point was?
What was the face doing to influence the ball?
What type of shaft lean influenced the lie mark eg. forward- front edge punch shot etc.
By the way if the clubfitter does not understand the difference between impact and address you will know more than they do about everything in golf.
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