This may sound a bit wacky but I will give it a try. In zeroing out on trackman we need to swing left to account for the downward strike but still hit with a clubface square to the target. Does anyone purposely put the grips on their clubs so that the markings on the grip are a bit left of center? That would seem to encourage a face that would be open to the path (not the resultant path) but true to the target.
Misaligning grips on clubs to account for D plane
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Joe Duffer
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Are you kidding...adjusting your grips so as to set the face in an open position?
Ben Hogan set his grip reminders (coathangers) to accomplish the same thing.
Are you kidding...adjusting your grips so as to set the face in an open position?
Ben Hogan set his grip reminders (coathangers) to accomplish the same thing.
tonytolliver
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Speaking of grips...
I'm thinking about changing mine from Golf Pride to Lamkin. Any reviews on the Lamkin grips from those who have them on their clubs?
I'm thinking about changing mine from Golf Pride to Lamkin. Any reviews on the Lamkin grips from those who have them on their clubs?
I would be interested to hear what Brian has to say on this subject. Obviously in some cases the clubface should not be square to the path at impact. (Again, I am not talking about the resultant path which takes the A of A into account.) So should a golfer grip the club open and would lining grips a bit left help that?
As duck mentioned, Langer does this. His grips are 4 degrees weak.
As duck mentioned, Langer does this. His grips are 4 degrees weak.
softconsult
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After some thought, I agree that the idea has merit.
You do have to consider that getting that ribbed grip on there at X degrees across
a whole set is no small task. No problem for Langer, since he doesn't have to do it.
How are you actually going to measure it? Once you slide the grip on you have a small amount of time for manipulation, then things start to solidify. Additionally, you have to make sure you haven't twisted the grip. I would make sure I bought extra grips. Another downside is that you will be limited to the few brands/models
offering the ribbed grip, but that's not a deal breaker.
One thing it would do is pretty much force you to use the Manzella/Jacob approach to opening
the clubface with a twist of wrist, rather than re-gripping the club after opening it.
You do have to consider that getting that ribbed grip on there at X degrees across
a whole set is no small task. No problem for Langer, since he doesn't have to do it.
How are you actually going to measure it? Once you slide the grip on you have a small amount of time for manipulation, then things start to solidify. Additionally, you have to make sure you haven't twisted the grip. I would make sure I bought extra grips. Another downside is that you will be limited to the few brands/models
offering the ribbed grip, but that's not a deal breaker.
One thing it would do is pretty much force you to use the Manzella/Jacob approach to opening
the clubface with a twist of wrist, rather than re-gripping the club after opening it.
duckjr78
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Either one. Whichever works for you. Langer aligns the markings, IIRC. He doesn't have ribs in his grips. Hogan obviously put the ribs in a specific place to keep his hands in a proper position.
I think the basic idea is that since we now better understand where the clubface needs to be in relation to the true path to produce a desired ballflight, why not "pre-program" that position any way possible?
On my last re-grip I put ribbed grips on and moved/twisted them to make it easier for me to be reminded of the strongish left hand and the weak right hand. They are the Winn model that is ribbed. When putting them on, I just put a lot more solvent so I had some more time to adjust them where they felt comfortable in my hands and did what I wanted. It's not foolproof, I can still grip it too strong or too weak on occasion and still have to check the club face alignment to make sure I have it in my hands how I want it.
softconsult
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I would think that before you did this, you would need to be pretty certain
of your grip, like spktho explains. Maybe do one club for experimentation.
of your grip, like spktho explains. Maybe do one club for experimentation.
I went to my club guy this morning and had a couple of clubs regripped in the way I've outlined. I did a 6 iron and a 58 degree wedge. I like ribbed grips. The same thing could be done using round. The important thing is that we gripped so that the markings (and naturally the rib) are in an approximately 2 or 3 degree week position in relation to the clubface. I chose some Taylor Made grips not because I am partial to the brand but because they had very clear markings on the front of the grip so I'll be able to orient my hands properly when I grab the club.
The method he used was to put the club in the vise with the face opened about the amount I wanted and then put the grip on straight as if he was trying to center the marks. Take it out of the vise and voila, the grip is on the club a few degrees left. We carefully manipulated the grip to get it exactly where I wanted it.
My goal will be to always grip the club in relation to the markings, thus insuring that the clubface is going to be a little open in relation to my grip.
Now comes the path/face D plane experiment. It should be fun and I'll let you know what happens, good or bad.
The method he used was to put the club in the vise with the face opened about the amount I wanted and then put the grip on straight as if he was trying to center the marks. Take it out of the vise and voila, the grip is on the club a few degrees left. We carefully manipulated the grip to get it exactly where I wanted it.
My goal will be to always grip the club in relation to the markings, thus insuring that the clubface is going to be a little open in relation to my grip.
Now comes the path/face D plane experiment. It should be fun and I'll let you know what happens, good or bad.
Dariusz J.
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duckjr78
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The ribs can go anywhere is my understanding, but a putter is the only club grip you can have a flat spot on.
Dariusz J.
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I agree with your "putter" sentence, i.e. it is not allowed to "flatten" any part of a grip of other clubs. However, I wonder also if it is also illegal to put something thick enough under the grip (a wire, etc.) to help you set your grip.
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