my dream swing-can you teach it?

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I grab the club with my right hand at adress. My pre-swing thought goes something like this: "I am a right-handed man. I am a strong man. Back in the day, I benched over 300 pounds. So i am going to hit this ball with my right hand. My left hand may be on the club, but it better shut up and just hold on. I will take the club back, up, and in with my right hand, right shoulder and right hip. I will then bludgeon the ball by hitting down with my whole right side. I will do this because I am a right-handed man."

Can this be taught?
 
Yes- Hit Stroke. You might flip with joy over the power of the driving right arm. The whole purpose of the Hit Stroke is to dump the clubhead onto the ball HARD. Down Down Down. See Lynn.

BTW the left hand still controls the radius of the swing. The left is always a rhythm stick.
 
The right hand applies extensor action to the left though- this maintains the radius of that left arm....Right???

I've found that the delay of the right arm drive is a huge thing in hitting...that's the key for me.
 
Birdie man, please talk a bit more about the delay of the right arm drive. I'm a hitter but I usually start driving immediately, maybe I'm missing something key here...
 
Can you hit with an open stance? My driver always goes to the right until one day I use an open stance, left hand facing directly to the target, right arm takeaway and tracing the target line, after impact still tracing the target line, because my left hand is facing the target at impact fix, that what I think, I can do the after impact rolling/swivel or the left arm/hand easily. The shot will be straight/slight fade. Is that becasue of flexibility that an open stance work for me (unable to roll the left to square using square stance)?
 
quote:Originally posted by Tball88

Birdie man, please talk a bit more about the delay of the right arm drive. I'm a hitter but I usually start driving immediately, maybe I'm missing something key here...

It's a hard thing to get yourself to do...maybe the hardEST. Almost every golfer has that natural impulse to drive that right arm at the ball ASAP...it's been said before- golf is the only sport (besides a slapshot in hockey) where your right wrist remains bent as you hurl your arm in the direction of the "throw" (or swing or w/e).

Hmmm...so how did I get myself to stop doing it? I honestly don't know man. I practiced a lot...um- I really like Brian's "Divot Drill" off Confessions of a Former Flipper.

I actually used to do that in my backyard to groove in impact...the thing is, to get to impact with lots of lag you HAVE TO be able to delay the driving of that right arm until very late in the downswing...really, it all starts with the Start Down.

Brian sometimes calls it a drop of the hands ("Drop and pivot")...that's a good way to think of it...to me it doesn't consciously feel like a drop though...not anymore anyway.

I personally, in my own swing, like to think of it more as a delay now. When I think of a "drop" I start to get slack in my left arm on the way down. Personally.

Anyway, they're absolutely right though...you have to "take up the slack" with your left side, and then hit (DOWN) into it.

Kind of like punching someone...try leaning back and then, slowly, take a big step and, slowly, throw a punch. That step adds so much power. Try punching with your feet together...you can throw that fist out, and fire those hips as fast as you want- there's just no leverage there.

When you take that fist back you kind of torque up (I guess this would the "backswing"). When you take a step forward (like "taking up the slack" in a golf swing I guess) to throw the punch, it just adds so much power.

You have to almost figure out how to take a step in your golf swing...just w/o actually taking a real step lol. The step in a punch is kind of like the hip bump in a golf swing. Step then pivot around that step.

That hip bump's so crucial- it shifts your weight onto the left side so you can properly time the driving of your hands to that weight shift, creating lag/power. Just like a punch. You have to have that almost sequential (it's kind of a blended move) shift onto the left side/turn around that left side. Just like a punch.

Try the divot drill. Hit em until you start feeling that lag. You'll know it when you feel it....or until you run outa grass lol :)

***BTW- also remember- a HITTER only goes to 3/4...VERY CRUCIALLY important! You can't "drop" anything (i.e. your hands/club!!! lol) if you look like John Daly on the backswing...you could drop your club down on the ground behind you but I don't think you'll get that ball anywhere like that [8D] Even if you take the club to parallel at the top of your backswing you can't really drop it...
 

Brian Manzella

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I really think the HITTER should "HOLD his hands at the top," for a bit, then BOOM!

Open Stances are OK if you can still trace a straight plane line (hit the inside of the ball).

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quote:Originally posted by diggerdog

I grab the club with my right hand at adress. My pre-swing thought goes something like this: "I am a right-handed man. I am a strong man. Back in the day, I benched over 300 pounds. So i am going to hit this ball with my right hand. My left hand may be on the club, but it better shut up and just hold on. I will take the club back, up, and in with my right hand, right shoulder and right hip. I will then bludgeon the ball by hitting down with my whole right side. I will do this because I am a right-handed man."

Can this be taught?

I currently bench over 300 pounds and all that nonsense about letting the club do the work never really worked for me. Don't get me wrong, swinging the club is perfectly fine, but I feel so much more comfortable unleashing my right arm and hitting the living daylights out of the ball!! I am muscular and powerful and wanted to be able to unload into the golf ball just like I did with a tennis racquet, just like I did when throwing a punch, and just like I did in about every other sport I played.

In short, I told Lynn I wanted to unleash me right side and that is exactly what he helped me do. I am a hitter and I am proud to be one!!

E.
 

EdZ

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"letting the club do the work" is more about not making anything 'happen' because of impact, not trying to 'time' anything.

A smooth continuous motion, applying steady force - the line of compression

It isn't a hit vs swing issue, but one of Rhythm
 
quote:Originally posted by EdZ

"letting the club do the work" is more about not making anything 'happen' because of impact, not trying to 'time' anything.

A smooth continuous motion, applying steady force - the line of compression

It isn't a hit vs swing issue, but one of Rhythm

You are correct and that is probably why I was never really good at "swinging". With hitting, I don't feel like I have to time anything and I don't really focus on rhythm. My intent is to deliberately HIT the ball and it is really liberating

E.
 
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