My journey to UNDER PAR! (LONG POST)

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Quick history: I started playing golf in college and quickly became a typcial bogey golfer and probably broke 90 within my first year or so of playing. Its been approx. 7 years since I started playing and I've slowly gotten better but hit a wall when I started shooting 77-82 and haven't gotten any better in the last 2 years.

The last 2 years I've really dug in and tried to improve my game by beating countless balls at the range and studying the golf swing including sites like this one. Last 2 years I've carried a handicap between 6-8 and been at 7 most of this year.

Breakout Part 1: This past March I wanted to try lessons and contacted Brian; had 4 hours of lessons in Louisville. We worked on a customized version of a Never Hook again pattern. I came home and had a few stellar rounds only a couple over par, but slowly I digressed and started playing like before. I had become overly mechanical and basically Overfixed my old problems, thus creating new problems in my game. My good shots were better than ever, but bad shots were pretty bad.

Breakout Part 2: I took advantage of Brian's trip to Ann Arbor, MI a couple weekends ago and to my suprise...Brian took my lesson a complete different direction than the previous lesson, confirming I really wasn't in need of a NHA remedies like before, and needed to be moved back toward the middle of the Manzella Matrix. Worked on my take away and getting more on my right side at the top, and also worked on my move after impact.

My last few rounds, I have been able to abandon my mechanical thoughts that paralyzed my swing and have shot only a few over par (personal best 74) with a lot more birdies than usual. Started feeling like I could just focus on the target and hit shots instead of thinking about my swing.

On a tough course (72.0/130) yesterday I shot 34 on the front w/ 3 birdies, birdied 12 and 13, and then found myself -4 through 15. 3 putted 16, and didn't get up and down on 17. Ended up w/ a 15' putt for 69 on 18 and burned the edge for a 70 (-2) round. It felt EASY honestly and really felt like i needed to post this to help any others out there that have hit a wall like i had.

STOP going to the range and beating balls w/o knowing what you are really doing. I "felt" like I knew what i was working on, but after lessons with Brian I've realized FEEL IS NOT REAL. I dont' beat balls now, just play more golf to improve my scoring and feel. Take that money you save from beating balls and get some lessons from Brian and truly Fix your game. I know I've only had a few good rounds and have a lot more work to do, but I've broken through the wall!
 
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Take that money you save from beating balls and get some lessons from Brian and truly Fix you game. I know I've only had a few good rounds and have a lot more work to do, but I've broken through the wall!

That ain't just any old fix. That's Fix with a capital f, baby(cakes).
 

Brian Manzella

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A very important post....!!!

Great Job Dustin, and thanks for the kind words.

But, for everyone else, here is the IMPORTANT part of the post:

This is the way it works with Brian Michael Manzella Lessons​
1. First lesson, I blow up your current problems/pattern with a pattern & idea DESIGNED TO eradicate the JUNK from you game.

THESE LESSONS MAY BE MONTHS OR EVEN A YEAR APART

2. Second Lesson, If you worked hard enough on what we did the first time, I may have to do a SIMILAR thing to the "new" patterm.

3. Third Lesson, You start to find THE PATTERN for you.​

Sometimes, this happens in two "sessions" sometimes, more than three.

But here is the deal. I have had folks come to me with a JUNK pattern, and I have give them a pattern that was degigned to BLOW UP THE JUNK and get them on their way. Then these folks don't put the time in, and finish THEIR job. I have had folks abandon their "fix it" pattern in a week or so.

Straight line learning does not exist in golf.

Lindsey Gahm, my little star pupil, rattling off rounds a couple rounds in the 60's recently, has been taking lessons from me since she was 7. She is 15.

We have been on a JOURNEY folks. She has hit hooks and fades, had square, open & closed stances, weak and strong grips, different release points, finishes, etc.

She now is working on perfecting the Lindsey Gahm swing, and as sure as "gawd made little green apples," THAT swing will change and evolve as well.

Of course, NONE OF THIS HAPPENS WITH A METHOD TEACHER, or a two pattern out the back of the book teacher, or any kind of teacher but the kind of teacher I have become.

I wasn't always this smart.;) I messed up a BUNCH in order to figure out the MANZELLA MATRIX SYSTEM. This goes for the short game as well.


This is how I do it, and i do it, like Chuck Norris says in the commercial—because it WORKS!

Who's got next?
 
Great job on the under par round. Excited to see what Brian will do with me via the magic of the internet. I have only broken par once in a competitive round.

Keep it going dude, and good luck with many more rounds under par!!!!
 

Leek

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Quick history: I started playing golf in college and quickly became a typcial bogey golfer and probably broke 90 within my first year or so of playing. Its been approx. 7 years since I started playing and I've slowly gotten better but hit a wall when I started shooting 77-82 and haven't gotten any better in the last 2 years.

The last 2 years I've really dug in and tried to improve my game by beating countless balls at the range and studying the golf swing including sites like this one. Last 2 years I've carried a handicap between 6-8 and been at 7 most of this year.

Breakout Part 1: This past March I wanted to try lessons and contacted Brian; had 4 hours of lessons in Louisville. We worked on a customized version of a Never Hook again pattern. I came home and had a few stellar rounds only a couple over par, but slowly I digressed and started playing like before. I had become overly mechanical and basically Overfixed my old problems, thus creating new problems in my game. My good shots were better than ever, but bad shots were pretty bad.

Breakout Part 2: I took advantage of Brian's trip to Ann Arbor, MI a couple weekends ago and to my suprise...Brian took my lesson a complete different direction than the previous lesson, confirming I really wasn't in need of a NHA remedies like before, and needed to be moved back toward the middle of the Manzella Matrix. Worked on my take away and getting more on my right side at the top, and also worked on my move after impact.

My last few rounds, I have been able to abandon my mechanical thoughts that paralyzed my swing and have shot only a few over par (personal best 74) with a lot more birdies than usual. Started feeling like I could just focus on the target and hit shots instead of thinking about my swing.

On a tough course (72.0/130) yesterday I shot 34 on the front w/ 3 birdies, birdied 12 and 13, and then found myself -4 through 15. 3 putted 16, and didn't get up and down on 17. Ended up w/ a 15' putt for 69 on 18 and burned the edge for a 70 (-2) round. It felt EASY honestly and really felt like i needed to post this to help any others out there that have hit a wall like i had.

STOP going to the range and beating balls w/o knowing what you are really doing. I "felt" like I knew what i was working on, but after lessons with Brian I've realized FEEL IS NOT REAL. I dont' beat balls now, just play more golf to improve my scoring and feel. Take that money you save from beating balls and get some lessons from Brian and truly Fix your game. I know I've only had a few good rounds and have a lot more work to do, but I've broken through the wall!


Great story! It must be very rewarding to see all of your effort bear fruit.
 
Dustin, can you share with us the move after impact you and Brian worked on?

My problem when at the range beating balls, and working on stuff learned from this site, is I always want to know if my swing looked good also. This is, I think, my biggest set back. Wanting to look good while working on consistent ball striking. Can anyone relate?
 
Dustin, can you share with us the move after impact you and Brian worked on?

My problem when at the range beating balls, and working on stuff learned from this site, is I always want to know if my swing looked good also. This is, I think, my biggest set back. Wanting to look good while working on consistent ball striking. Can anyone relate?

I think we all know how rubbish it can be hitting bad shots/feeling like a octupus on LSd when we a re making a change.

I always figure it's better to swing like an idiot there than on the course.

Nothing beats nailing it with a good looking swing as nice looking women walk past though :cool:

Must remember to do that one day.....
 
Nothing beats nailing it with a good looking swing as nice looking women walk past though

...especially with cool looking pants and a hairdo to match!!!!

Truthfully, I really did like the pants! Why can't you wear them any longer? Was it the significant other saying no more, course mgt., shout it out can't get the shart out, or?
 
Nah, the course I was visiting had a Captain who didn't believe they were "appropriate". You have to respect other clubs when visiting, so no more trousers of the polka dot kind that week and the marine haircut :cool:

Might drag them out again one day when I have opposition that are easily put off :p
 
The mechanics of learning...

Straight line learning does not exist in golf.




Zig-zag learning! The middle (horizontal axis) is your ideal. You start off either way to the left or right of your ideal (in the m-matrix framework). You either hit it too far left or too far right. You either hit it too high or too low. You then develop a pattern that's on the other extreme. Eventually, through ever smaller adjustments (which helps you to monitor the differences between patterns), you arrive at your desired destination. The difference between good players and great players are the size of their adjustment (shown by the deviation of the wave from the horizontal axis in the above diagram).
 
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