my new swing on account of this site

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RicoSuave05

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First I want t thank Brian & all the members of this site.
After posting my swing to topic http://www.manzellagolfforum.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3078&SearchTerms=my+swing
Erik_K and mb6606 gave me precious tips and with brian´s viedeos and all the postings here I try to develop my swing.

There is still a lo of work to do, but I think I have improved:
iron 7 fo: http://free.pages.at/tgmgolf/videos/rs060401_i7_fo_50fps.mov
iron 7 fo: http://free.pages.at/tgmgolf/i7060401fo/i7060401fo.htm
driver fo: http://free.pages.at/tgmgolf/videos/rs060401_dr_fo_50fps.mov

I now have solid ball contact, taking divots, increased my length, and my driver head speed went up to 107 mph and my overswing with flying ellbow nearly disappeared. I carry the Iron 7 now 165 yards.
Most of the time the ball starts slightly to the right and comes in with a nice draw (I never was a slicer). Sometimes pull appears.
A lot of help for me was the right forearm takeaway and a little bit of tistaway.
I think I use angled hinging (please verify that, thanks) and try now to work on horizontal hinging. (I tried it with the wedding ring drill, but most of the time it leads to hooking the ball)
There is still throw-away and bobbing of the head.... work...work..work.

My pro (unfortunatele he doesn´t know tgm) was very pleased about my ball strikink during the last training and he agreed to my goal to reach Hcp 5 this year (now I have 7).
He just wanted me in a more athletic posture at the adress with raising my head. For him, my forward press is ok. He mentioned my left arm chiken-wing in the finish, where I loose contact with my right hand, so he wants me to swing more to the outside to get a higher finish and keeps my left ellbow more on the inside.
My left knee is not coming in in the backswing, but he said it´s o.k. for me.

So I will go on working on educated hands and lagging, hoping to get aditional prescious infos from you.

1000 thanks to Brian and the community, yours Rico!
 
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Were you in the band "Testament" ? If so you are an awesome guitar player.
Seriously though, I like it for the most part, looks like you get a little bit sway-y with the driver, but at impact everything matches up pretty good.
 
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I'd work on 3/4 punch shots to really develop some LAG.

I think it wouldn't hurt to shorten your swing all the time actually.

Looks like you have some Hitter tendencies in you.

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Seems like you could setup with your head more in the centre of your feet too. Driver setup looks pretty good......you could narrow your stance a bit though....I think you're over-doing the wide stance.

Something's goin on with the pivot too.....not sure if your swing is too upright or something (no DTL shot) but your head moves UP in the backswing......seems like your "flirting with" a reverse pivot. Not 100% sure of the cause but it could be a very upright backswing.....or your pivot (independently) might just need some work.

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And yes.....it does seem that you use Angled Hinging....and Single Left Wrist Action.

Tough to tell from that camera angle but I think so.

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O and you move your head forward too much with that 7 iron....prolly trying to hit down. Your head is ahead of centre (of your stance) at Impact.....

Get your left shoulder UP to hit down (cause that'll make your right shoulder, and everything atached to it, go DOWN). This way you won't lunge forward....you'll prolly hit it higher....and better....and you won't hit pulls or hooks like you may.

Seems like a backward kind of thing- getting the left shoulder up and your head back, to hit down.....but it totally isn't if you understand that you need to get your right shoulder down plane and going towards that ball (and from the inside).

It's definately one of my main swing thoughts.....and ESPECIALLY off tight lies.....when you NEED to really hit down on er....and hit it crisp.
 
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Rico, your DRIVER swing is much better than the iron swing.

In the iron swing your right arm does not below the left arm—on the downswing—early enough.
 
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@ Garth:
:) not from Testament, our band played more gothic, new-wave up to jazz-funk stuff, although (like I´m an hidden hitter) deep in my heart I ever loved metal in any kinds. If there was a HCP in guitar playing I probably would have 3, and my left wrist always kept arched at "impact" on the fretboard :)

@ birdie_man:
... you´re right with the hitter tendencies (from my feeling-approach).
3/4 punches I try to execute during warming up, but to transfer this compact, crisp striking to the full swing it will take some time, but I always return to this method, when I´m loosing my FLW-feeling, like brian is showing us in the video-shorts.
... mixing up the head movement with hitting down, yes..., left shoulder up right down, not the head ! Isn´t in my driver swing my left shoulder way too much "up" at impact ?
... single wrist action: well noticed, because my pro told me to turn my right hand to a more weak-single-action (10-2-A)
... centering my head at setup ? could you please specify it a bit more for me ? Keeping more "behind" at impact I will work on.

@ mrodock:
I am working now on keeping the righ foot longer on the ground to transfer more pressure from the inside of the foot to the ball,.. is this idea o.k.?

@ brianman:
wow... well noticed, thanks a lot!

@ all: 1000 thanks for wasting your precious time on my swing!
Would it be a good idea to completely change to the principles of hitting in my case? lg Rico
 
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quote:Originally posted by RicoSuave05
@ birdie_man:
... mixing up the head movement with hitting down, yes...left shoulder up right down, not the head ! Isn´t in my driver swing my left shoulder way too much "up" at impact ?
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I can't see the vid right now....but I really doubt it's a problem.....I don't think it really could be a problem unless you're losing your balance and falling away from the target....head moving backwards....reverse-C-ing.....etc.

http://www.megspace.com/sports/moetown/videos/hogan_side_clip2_frames.html

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This is what allows you to get your right arm under your left.

quote:... single wrist action: well noticed, because my pro told me to turn my right hand to a more weak-single-action (10-2-A)
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I can't remember your grip....(and still can't see the vid).....but Single Left Wrist Action means Cocking without a Startup Swivel....i.e. no immediate turning the clubface to lie on the face of the Inclined Plane......

If you have Brian's video short about a Hitter vs. a Swinger's clubface he talks about this.

....this is regardless of grip type BTW.

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... centering my head at setup ? could you please specify it a bit more for me ? Keeping more "behind" at impact I will work on.
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With your 7-iron swing your head was forward in your stance at Address. You need to get it centred between your feet. Unless you're really trying to hit it low....sometimes I setup like that when I wanna hit a little punch.

Hope DAT clears things up for ya.
 
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RicoSuave05

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@ mrodock:
thx 4 confirmation. I´m trying, as you said, a little bit much at a time, but I always step back again, it´s just so fascinating to try out components of tgm and different ball striking feelings; the most important thing for me still is the FLW and keeping the flying-wedges.

@ bbftx:
thx for the compliment :))))
It´s a simple sony Hi8 (analog) cam. But as I knew, the PAL signal (European TV tandard) is 25 frames/second interleaced. So in reality, you see 50 half-frames on your TV set, and the same way its also recorded. That means that the first 1/50 you see line 1,3,5,7.... and in the second 1/50 you see the lines 2,4,6,8,10 ....
So I captured (with my old Miro DC 30 and a 400mhz PII computer) the PAL signal and used the program "VIRTUALDUB" to deinterleace the 25 frames to 50. For the USA-standard NTSC, it would be 60fps, because you use 30fps interleaced standard. Good info with a lot of pictures about this topic is: http://www.100fps.com/ Have fun with your 60fps in the near future :) (it works the same with DV-cams I think)

@ birdie_man:
I put you the comparison between driver and i7 on this page: http://free.pages.at/tgmgolf/dvsi7060401fo/dvsi7060401.htm
There your head-comments and brians right-ellbow-arm comment is good to be seen.
Thanks for explaining "Single Left Wrist Action". I still mix up a lot terms of the book. Yeah, it´s exactly the feeling I have, how Brian is explaining it on his video-shorts. I nearly have no "layin on the plane" and "cocking" feeling. It´s more just a right-bending feel, which keeps my PP#3 BEHIND the club (like Brian mentioned it).

Thanks to you all again, yours Rico.
 
birdie_man

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Ah yes.....

Good stuff with the side by side.

Ya your driver swing is better.

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Right arm more under left.....left wrist flatter.....both as a result of more Axis Tilt.....i.e. head more back.....tailbone more forward......right shoulder gets lower- goes "at the ball" more.
 
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mb6606

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R05,
The Driver swing is improved. 7 Iron still losing your lag and flat left wrist. Watch Brians videos and key in on his powerful flat left wrist at impact.
It appears you are "steering" and not getting the inside of the ball -- which will produce a true draw (ball starts right and draws back left to the target).
 
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EdZ

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Looks much better than before (based on side by side link).

You might find working on exaggerating the 'full roll' of your left arm will give you a much better 'sound' to your shots and better motion through impact. You look to be making basically a 'block' move, which isn't the worst move to make, but you'll want to stick to a fade if you continue to do that.

Work on hooking the heck out of it for a bit via full roll, then SMOOTH out that roll until the club feels very heavy - like you are 'swinging' a sledge hammer in your right hand. You will likely find your left hand is a touch too strong.
 
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