My Swing

[JBrock]

Hello all, I was filming my swing in the yard today and got brave and decided to post it for all to critique. I've been golfing for about 1.5 years and am a 25 handicap. I really want to start getting better, my main problem on the course is consitency, especially with my long irons/fairway woods/driver. I realized that my swing wasn't nearly as good as I had pictured it in my mind. The main things that I noticed is that my shoulders appear too open at impact causing the right arm to be bent, a late release and chicken wing follow through. Well, have at it and all comments/suggestions/fixes will be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna be in the 80s one day even if kill my self trying .

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Brock

 

[hue]

JBrock: A good place tp start would be Brian's address article. Your set up has no axis tilt and sets you up for your reverse pivot problems. Then read Brian's Perfect pivot articles. Work on these things and things will get a lot better

 

[hue]

quote:Originally posted by hue

JBrock: Your set up has no axis tilt and sets you up for your reverse pivot problems.

You want to set up with the spine leaning away from the target \ you are like this I so kick your hips 1/2 or so towards the target at address .

 

[Triad]

I will let the swing gurus do the analysis, but IMHO for an 18 month old golfer you have a lot of good things happening in your swing already. A few tweaks and you will see dramatic improvement.

The 3 Essentials seem to be there, now work on the three Imperatives. In particular, the FLW at impact. See 12-5-1.

I couldn't take my eyes off your dog His response to your motion was mesmerizing.

 

[dclaryjr]

quote:Originally posted by JBrock

The main things that I noticed is that my shoulders appear too open at impact causing the right arm to be bent, a late release and chicken wing follow through. Well, have at it and all comments/suggestions/fixes will be greatly appreciated. I'm gonna be in the 80s one day even if kill my self trying .

The main thing that stands out to me is the same problem I'm working on right now. If you look at your face on photo of impact, you left wrist is bent forward and right hand is straight. That's bass-ackwards. Look through Brian's instructional articles and find the one on Lagging--it has a couple good pictures to show you the difference. I'm working on it by hitting LOTS of short wedge shots and concentrating on having a flat left wrist at impact. It's making a difference in the quality of my ball striking.

I like your four-legged swing coach too!!

 

[EdZ]

Agreed, for someone just getting started fairly recently, overall quite a solid motion.

Looks to me to be mainly setup and tension, some weight shift. Review Brian's article, Hue's point about axis tilt should really help, and I would also suggest some eyes closed practice to settle your balance a bit more, holding two clubs together - and then doing the same with one in each hand, keeping them the same distance apart.

As far as in swing observations - practice chips and pitches with only your right hand, and then with only your left. Really feel that 'solid' left side.

Swinging with both hands and letting go with the right, full swivel would also be a great drill for you - exaggerate the weight shift - get what feels like WAY back on the right foot, lifting the left, then swing through and lift the right - do this until you can maintain balance. Don't be afraid to get that left shoulder back behind the ball. That is especially powerful with left hand only swings. Let the club really 'swing' - effort is not power. I would recommend the tour tempo CD 27/9 as a great addition to eyes closed, heavy club practice.

Nice move, well on your way... and with such an energetic caddy

 

[dclaryjr]

EdZ,

Why 27/9?

 

[EdZ]

I think it is the best place to start to master the 3/1 ratio. Getting any slower or faster to start doesn't allow you to feel the true 'swing' of the entire club. Once that is mastered, folks can move to a faster tempo if they find it more comfortable. 27/9 really lets gravity show you the right tempo, and that really helps the transition.

 

[DDL]

Thank goodness you don't shank the ball!!!!!

 

[dclaryjr]

quote:Originally posted by EdZ

I think it is the best place to start to master the 3/1 ratio. Getting any slower or faster to start doesn't allow you to feel the true 'swing' of the entire club. Once that is mastered, folks can move to a faster tempo if they find it more comfortable. 27/9 really lets gravity show you the right tempo, and that really helps the transition.

Thanks...I'll give that a try myself. When I first got the CD I was working on a shortened swing, and the 21/7 felt good to me.

 

[JBrock]

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. I will definetly work on my spine tilt at address and the top of my back swing. Thanks Hue.

EdZ, thanks for the drill suggestions, I actually bought tour tempo about a week ago but have yet to dive into it, will do soon. Also, you mentioned tension and I agree it looks like I'm too stiff at address, arms locked etc. I was practicing my address in the mirror this morning and worked on loosening up.

Triad, I'm not sure what FLW is and only know that 12-5-1 is a TGM term. I will try and find their meanings.

Dave, I never thought to check that before, thanks. Added to my list of things to work on.

Do you guys agree that my right shoulder is dipping to much at impact, or should I not really worry about it?

My dog is awesome, occasionally I take her down to the park and hit short irons, she never tires of retreiving balls.

 

[EdZ]

A new meaning to getting 'bite' on your shots

I wouldn't worry much about the shoulder for now... just feel more 'comfortable' and balanced.... smooooooooth motion eliminates unneeded movements. You can't be smooooooth unless you are balanced.

You may also try the Alex Morrison approach.... hum rockaby baby as you swing back and through, it really can be very effective.

 

[Triad]

quote:Originally posted by JBrock

Thanks for the suggestions so far guys. I will definetly work on my spine tilt at address and the top of my back swing. Thanks Hue.

EdZ, thanks for the drill suggestions, I actually bought tour tempo about a week ago but have yet to dive into it, will do soon. Also, you mentioned tension and I agree it looks like I'm too stiff at address, arms locked etc. I was practicing my address in the mirror this morning and worked on loosening up.

Triad, I'm not sure what FLW is and only know that 12-5-1 is a TGM term. I will try and find their meanings.

Dave, I never thought to check that before, thanks. Added to my list of things to work on.

Do you guys agree that my right shoulder is dipping to much at impact, or should I not really worry about it?

My dog is awesome, occasionally I take her down to the park and hit short irons, she never tires of retreiving balls.

Sorry Brock, FLW means Flat Left Wrist. Your left wrist is breaking down through the impact area. You are going to want to fix that. Take your swing to the top. Look at your wrists, Flat left and bent right. That is the attitude your wrists need to be in at impact. No flipping of the left hand..no scooping. Strike decisively down on the ball.

Forget 12-5-1, just do what Ed and others said. Start with short chips and pitches until you get the feel for the FLW and Bent right through impact.

Also, don't TRY to hold a FLW, ALLOW it to remain flat by keeping your hands moving through the stroke, carried by the pivot. Trying to hold your wrist flat creates tension. You don't need any more tension in your arms You need less.

Like someone else said, get behind the ball. Turn into that right hip on the backswing and get the club onplane immediately. Up Back and In simultaneously.

Take some more pictures when you get a chance. Don't forget to bring your Pup

 

[hue]

quote:Originally posted by JBrock

Do you guys agree that my right shoulder is dipping to much at impact, or should I not really worry about it?

Keep your shoulder moving downplane that is what counts. In one of Brian's video he has this drill where he has his left hand on the grip and his right hand near the clubhead and he makes a split grip back swing then bumps left with his hips and then swings into the inside quadrant of the ball putting "All of him on the ball". This will give you a better idea of how the trail shoulder should work. The lower you get the trail shoulder at impact the more the trail arm is bent so you will have plenty of extensor action to unleash through the ball. Check out Brian's logo of Traveno just past impact and see how low it is . I know Brian likes a low trail shoulder at impact. Redgoat has pointed out that this puts a strain on the back but I have a low trail shoulder at impact and so far have not had back problems. Having said that I am very flexible.