New Rick Smith article in GD

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SLICE NO MORE! 5 moves to a powerful draw....YEAAAA WHOOOO!!!!! No mention of clubface at all, just path. O wait-he did recommend a 10 finger grip with your hands a couple inches apart. Did I ever tell anybody how glad I am to find this site! Thanks for the continuing education Brian!
 

matt

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The conventional wisdom is that a baseball grip (10 finger grip) will allow more ROLL during the impact interval.

So everyone, instead of changing their pattern to something more geometrically correct, should just change to a different (goofy) grip? Iffy.
 
Drawing the ball is easy once you learn a proper grip and how to stay on plane ***.

I remember when I would give anything to learn how to draw the ball, that was my biggest goal at one time... Then I learned how to hook it, then a sloppy fade and now a draw that i completey control... Screw fading the ball for control, I can do anything with my ole right-to-left ball flight.
 
joeparr said:
Self ,thats what I keep saying to myself but cant hit a draw.How did you finally do it?
3 years ago I hit a draw most all the time then I lost the draw. Now on the range I have been hitting draws the last ten days by focusing on the pivot in the BACKSWING. as bman states teh downswing pivot is much easier when your backswing pivot is good. if backswing pivot is bad then compensations must be made on the way down. It is much easier to fix the backswing and just let the downswing happen
 

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self-mastery said:
Drawing the ball is easy once you learn a proper grip and how to stay on plane ***.

I remember when I would give anything to learn how to draw the ball, that was my biggest goal at one time... Then I learned how to hook it, then a sloppy fade and now a draw that i completey control... Screw fading the ball for control, I can do anything with my ole right-to-left ball flight.
How about when you have pin on the right side of the green with the wind blowing right-to-left?

It's preferable to have some sort of fade shot in your bag. I saw Bob May over the summer in Milwaukee and he was hitting this big, roping draw. For the above situation he'd literally start the ball 15 yards right of the green! Personally I think it's a rather dangerous way to play.
 

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Most golfers who hit a draw don't hit a "real draw." They hit what brian calls, and i steal the name, it's a leakage slice. Bascially meaning the only reason they hook/draw the ball is because their clubface is so wide open and they flip it closed. If they didn't flip it they'd slice it off the earth.

Let me edit and say most mid-high cappers
 
good point

I see that alot, but some still can't make that slice a fade, to even think of draw is overwhelming. I have been there. I did that when I was a kid.
One day for what ever reason I started to cup my left wrist, have it on video 1991. Anyway point being I could start it right and I could slice it.
Funny stuff. Wish I knew what I knew now.
May the course be with you,
Dana
 
jim_0068 said:
Most golfers who hit a draw don't hit a "real draw." They hit what brian calls, and i steal the name, it's a leakage slice. Bascially meaning the only reason they hook/draw the ball is because their clubface is so wide open and they flip it closed. If they didn't flip it they'd slice it off the earth.

Let me edit and say most mid-high cappers

Whatever! :)

Allz I know is that playing a draw is so much fun. I can flight balls straight that bounce to the left once they hit the ground. I can play a tight draw that moves slight to the left, and I can pull draw it if I feel like it... All without closing my stance, a strong grip or any other crap that ppl claim you have to do...

I think that a fade is a manipulated shot and MOST ppl that claim to fade the ball are slicers that start the ball way left and allow it to slice somewhere near target. I roll my eyes when some duffer claims that his "natural" shot is a fade (YEAH RIGHT.)

How do you draw the ball?

I dunno... Hard work, blisters, beating balls into the dirt, experimentation.

I think that most ppl suck at golf because they take it outside of the realm of a sport... They don't have fun and try to hit trick shots or work on controlling their flight...



Someone asked:

"How about when you have pin on the right side of the green with the wind blowing right-to-left?"

I just totally die like a pure hitter that can't draw the ball on a hole where he absolutely needs to turn the ball over...

No! I can move the ball in either direction, but a fade isn't my strongest shot...

In the above situation It would depend on how far am I away from the pin. My two options are to flight the ball low and under the wind, or use my hitter's pattern with it's left-to-right ball flight.
 
self-mastery said:
Whatever! :)

Allz I know is that playing a draw is so much fun. I can flight balls straight that bounce to the left once they hit the ground. I can play a tight draw that moves slight to the left, and I can pull draw it if I feel like it... All without closing my stance, a strong grip or any other crap that ppl claim you have to do...

I think that a fade is a manipulated shot and MOST ppl that claim to fade the ball are slicers that start the ball way left and allow it to slice somewhere near target. I roll my eyes when some duffer claims that his "natural" shot is a fade (YEAH RIGHT.)

How do you draw the ball?

I dunno... Hard work, blisters, beating balls into the dirt, experimentation.

I think that most ppl suck at golf because they take it outside of the realm of a sport... They don't have fun and try to hit trick shots or work on controlling their flight...



Someone asked:

"How about when you have pin on the right side of the green with the wind blowing right-to-left?"

I just totally die like a pure hitter that can't draw the ball on a hole where he absolutely needs to turn the ball over...

No! I can move the ball in either direction, but a fade isn't my strongest shot...

In the above situation It would depend on how far am I away from the pin. My two options are to flight the ball low and under the wind, or use my hitter's pattern with it's left-to-right ball flight.

Come on self-mastery, we gotta see that swing of your's!
 
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