NHA up the wall
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ZAP
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Last year when I was working with this I had to actually go to a wall and practice up the wall....down the wall and then left of the wall.(actually it was right of the wall for me)
My guess is that in trying to swing down the wall you are leaning towards the ball and introducing the hosel directly to it.
I do not totally remember what else was on the video but I remember something else working better for me. If I can find my notes I will post more.
My guess is that in trying to swing down the wall you are leaning towards the ball and introducing the hosel directly to it.
I do not totally remember what else was on the video but I remember something else working better for me. If I can find my notes I will post more.
Kevin Shields
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i would say its either causing hands to be too "out" or you're getting back under the swetspot on the way down. Make sure you still lag the sweetspot and play the ball enough up in your stance. But.....if you could post video....
birdie_man
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Chronic shanks are about the worst.
As KS said you must be too under the sweetspot (too open) at some point in your swing. I have found what they say to be true cause I've had the shanks many a time and...
...Twistaway always seems to cure it for me when nothing else will. (not even full rolling it in the downswing) Knowing that, you may want to find a way to implement some of that into the swing you really want to make. (assuming it would be different)
Have you seen the Hogan video where he hits balls into the ocean?
Hogan talks about the "butt pad" of the right hand index finger:
"It isn't any pressure down or around the shaft. It's just forward."
As KS said you must be too under the sweetspot (too open) at some point in your swing. I have found what they say to be true cause I've had the shanks many a time and...
...Twistaway always seems to cure it for me when nothing else will. (not even full rolling it in the downswing) Knowing that, you may want to find a way to implement some of that into the swing you really want to make. (assuming it would be different)
Have you seen the Hogan video where he hits balls into the ocean?
Hogan talks about the "butt pad" of the right hand index finger:
"It isn't any pressure down or around the shaft. It's just forward."
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Brian Manzella
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No more "up the wall"....
"Up the wall" isn't for everyone.
Here is what I would suggest:
Make a "Baby Fade" pattern backswing.
1. Hands in (no pop-out) Soft Draw type takeaway, but without the LCT.
2. After the hands get as in as they are going to (about 3/4th of the way back), work the right arm under, somewhat more than a Soft Draw backswing, and do not try to cross the line intentionally.
3. Have your hips work UNDER your head throughout the backswing.
4. Weightless left foot halway back.
From there, allow the "unwind" to take the hands back toward the target line, enough to do the NHA downswing.
"Up the wall" isn't for everyone.
Here is what I would suggest:
Make a "Baby Fade" pattern backswing.
1. Hands in (no pop-out) Soft Draw type takeaway, but without the LCT.
2. After the hands get as in as they are going to (about 3/4th of the way back), work the right arm under, somewhat more than a Soft Draw backswing, and do not try to cross the line intentionally.
3. Have your hips work UNDER your head throughout the backswing.
4. Weightless left foot halway back.
From there, allow the "unwind" to take the hands back toward the target line, enough to do the NHA downswing.
Matt Bryda
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Visually, does the club and left arm wedge appear to torque more open from the DTL view when you make the baby fade move?
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Kevin Shields
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More open when?
thanks
Thanks Brian and Kevin. I find the SD take away to work much better. I just can't do the NHA without popping out.
I also discovered I was setting up with the clubface quite open to the target line. I mean, it "looked" square to me, but wasn't even close. I wonder if this is a common misperception for those used to swinging too far inside to out? While the open face might help to get the ball up and straight with that path, it seems to exacerbate problems with the takeway. When the clubface was open but looked square, it looked like I was taking the club head back straight, when in fact it was way inside. It seems somewhat counter intuitive to me but when I squared the clubface up it was easier to take the clubhead back on a higher plane and I started to hit some high fades (a sight for sore eyes).
In any case, yesterday was shank city. Today the old guy next to me at the range, no doubt with some vision issues, asked where I played my college golf.
As usual, thanks for the solid help here.
Thanks Brian and Kevin. I find the SD take away to work much better. I just can't do the NHA without popping out.
I also discovered I was setting up with the clubface quite open to the target line. I mean, it "looked" square to me, but wasn't even close. I wonder if this is a common misperception for those used to swinging too far inside to out? While the open face might help to get the ball up and straight with that path, it seems to exacerbate problems with the takeway. When the clubface was open but looked square, it looked like I was taking the club head back straight, when in fact it was way inside. It seems somewhat counter intuitive to me but when I squared the clubface up it was easier to take the clubhead back on a higher plane and I started to hit some high fades (a sight for sore eyes).
In any case, yesterday was shank city. Today the old guy next to me at the range, no doubt with some vision issues, asked where I played my college golf.
As usual, thanks for the solid help here.
Matt Bryda
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Kevin Shields
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I would definately think depending on the player but Brian would have to chime in to say if thats the true intention of the pattern.
Matt Bryda
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I was just trying to visualize what the baby fade motion of the club would look like DTL. I am picturing a Hoganish type of move, yes?
birdie_man
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Baby Fade stuff! Neat...
birdie_man
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I would imagine it basically that way. The armswing and arm structure (right elbow tucked) anyway.
bagger1rick
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Sure would love to see a short video on this pattern. I think this is where we were headed when we worked in Las Vegas Brian.
I know. It sounds like something that I had working well for me earlier this year. It kinda fell off the map, stuck in Brian's head. Let it out, man!
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